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UPDATED! BRAD PITT Out Of THE FOUNTAIN, In TROY'! PHOENIX Or CROWE Stepping In'! What The Hell

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.

Okay. This is sounding worse and worse, and it’s tearing me up to be the bearer of bad news here. We broke the story yesterday about Brad Pitt leaving THE FOUNTAIN, and now it’s being confirmed by other outlets, including VARIETY, that Brad Pitt is leaving Darren Aronofsky’s proposed SF/metaphysical epic.

I loved this script.

I can understand how someone else might not. It’s not an easy piece of writing, and it would make a strange and personal film. No doubt about it. I thought the script was beautiful and moving, and I thought there was a real strong emotional component to it that would ultimately allow people to relate to it in a way that most never do with 2001. Was the script THE MATRIX? Was it the kind of thing that would spawn franchise spin-offs and ancillary marketing and merchandising? Was it an adrenaline kick worth revisiting over and over? Doubtful. Aronofsky seemd to have something very different in mind.

Brad Pitt has been associated with other projects that ended up not happening, like URBAN TOWNIE (the film Mark Romanek flirted with before making ONE HOUR PHOTO) and, more notably, the Coen Bros. brilliant TO THE WHITE SEA. I know that he wanted to make TO THE WHITE SEA. I can see why, too. That script was a thing of beauty. Watching Pitt grow his now-infamous beard over the last few months, he’s been visibly sending a message about his dedication to THE FOUNTAIN. He could have been working. He could have been doing one or even two other films. Instead, he stayed faithful.

And now he’s off the film.

So what happened?

Here’s what VARIETY has to say about the situation on today’s front page:

Pitt splits 'Fountain'

Story centers on main character's psychological journey

By CLAUDE BRODESSER

Brad Pitt is opting out of Darren Aronofsky's "The Fountain" and could likely land at another Warner Bros. project, the Iliad update "Troy." The switch, however, could leave "The Fountain" high and dry and create several problems for the Warners, co-financier New Regency and tenpercenter CAA to sort out.

Warner execs have apparently placed calls to agents asking about the availability of several other top stars as replacements for Pitt in "The Fountain" -- but it's unclear at this point if the project will go ahead.

Shooting on "The Fountain" was expected to start this fall. However, the film has proceeded in fits and starts for some time, falling apart once already.

Several sources piped up today, all before VARIETY ever published their version of things, and they’re all painting the same picture of what’s going on:

Regarding The Fountain, it's my sense that - while Aronofsky is desperately trying to shore up the numerous leaks springing up everywhere on the project - the studio itself is breathing a secret sigh of relief since this is as good an excuse as any to bail on a project whose financial future they worried might be dim.

Aronofsky is advocating J. Phoenix but, as fine an actor as he is, he doesn't greenlight a 70 mil film yet. Some things are meant to be; others are not. They've sunk some genuine $$$ into this though, so it may be salvagable yet. I hope so.

Joaquin Phoenix? Wow. I mean, I like his work, and I think he’s one of the things that really works in SIGNS, but I can’t imagine Warner Bros. saying yes to this movie with him in the lead. I wouldn’t want to be in Aronofsky’s shoes on this picture at this particular point. This sort of process is where the nickname “development hell” comes from. And it’s not like this is some crappy piece of Hollywood product we’re talking about. This is something really great and personal, being shredded by the storm. The director’s whole job becomes about preserving the thing at a point like this. Another report came in that filled in a little more of the picture:

I've heard it's falling apart also. Aronofsky fired Robert Newman at ICM after he built his career from nothing and signed with Bryan Lourd, Brad Pitt's agent, after the movie was falling apart originally and New Regency came in to co-finance.

Aronofsky turned in a re-write a few days ago which Brad Pitt didn't understand and he pulled out. CAA, his new agents are trying to save it, but want to preserve their relationship with Brad Pitt who is more important to them than Aronofsky, the new client. That's the scoop, New regency is saying it's dead, but who knows.

Christ. That’s brutal. Agency turf skirmishes can create real problems for directors and actors. Spielberg has long lamented the packaging on HOOK and the way it tied his hands on certain things.

We got one final bit of the puzzle filled in for us by a third scooper today:

Warners got cold feet about spending so much on such an offbeat esoteric project. This is Aronofsky remember, hardly a mainstream movie maker. Scooby Doo this ain't. The Matrix is what they hoped it would be but I think they finally realized it just wasn't commercial enough to be spending a hundred million on when all is said and done.

So they offered Brad "Troy" instead and this whole charade is so they won't ever have to admit that they got those dreaded cold feet. When Village Roadshow got scared of spending so much on such a strange project that should have told everybody that this script was just too damn weird to ever be a mainstream hit at that budget level. And Pitt is hardly a sure thing. This could easily have turned into another "Seven Years in Tibet" only this would have been the weird sci-fi version!

Oh, man. I am going to try to get an official statement from Aronofsky, but I feel like I’m intruding on someone’s grieving process. If he’s really under the gun like this, trying to replace an actor and still make a start date, then the last thing he’s going to want to do is talk about the process with Warner Bros., and I definitely understand.

Still... I’d love to sort this out... and I hope for the best, for some sort of reprieve. I mean, Pitt’s agent claims he’s still in, and that all of this is premature. I guess all that smoke has nothing to do with a fire... right?

UPDATE!!

Zoriana Kit over at The Hollywood Reporter weighed in with a very good piece, and I thought I'd toss it into the mix. We're all hearing the same basic thing, filtered through various people's personal feelings, and I think we're starting to get a good picture of what's going on now.

The Vine: 'Fountain' pen is Pitt's peeve

by Zorianna Kit Aug. 30, 2002 HollywoodReporter.com

Hollywood has been buzzing all week about the rumor that Brad Pitt is itching to pull out of Warner Bros. Pictures' sci-fi pic "The Fountain." All involved insist the actor hasn't decamped, but sources close to the production are claiming that Pitt disliked the script's latest draft, for which preproduction has already begun as the clock ticks down on an October start date in Australia. Cate Blanchett and Ellen Burstyn are already in place, and the studio is said to have rented Pitt a beachfront mansion to house the actor during the shoot. There has even been talk that Warners could insist Pitt pay back the $18 million already invested in the project as an exit fee, though his reps deny that conversation has taken place.

While Warners has been trying to keep Pitt aboard, "Fountain" helmer Darren Aronofsky, who signed with CAA last month, has been scrambling to find a possible replacement, turning to his old agents at ICM - the commissioning agents on the film - for help in assessing Mel Gibson's availability. (Gibson was unavailable.) But all could still end well: To keep its options open, the studio is believed to have made an offer to Russell Crowe to step into "Fountain," while George Clooney's name also has been mentioned as a possibility. Pitt is unlikely to become persona non grata at Warners, where he and producer Brad Grey have a deal.

In fact, a "Fountain"-less Pitt could end up playing Achilles in the Wolfgang Petersen-directed "Troy" -- that possibility already has actors like Eric Bana interested in playing opposite him as Hector. And Pitt would likely receive far more than his $2 million "Fountain" tab to attack Troy.

Wow. Again. Wow. I hope the end of this long holiday weekend brings some sort of resolution for Aronofsky, and I still remain firm in my passion for the film. I hope Warner Bros. does the right thing and moves forward, and that the right actor ends up onboard. This could still be something great, and it's important not to give up on it yet.

"Moriarty" out.





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He'll do it...
by Mrs Danvers
Aug 30th, 2002
06:41:51 AM
rum
by reni
Aug 30th, 2002
06:42:37 AM
Hopeful?
by Redbox
Aug 30th, 2002
06:48:20 AM
Spontaneous petition
by Yatak
Aug 30th, 2002
06:51:53 AM
I know I'm in the minority here . . .
by Fuckles
Aug 30th, 2002
06:56:27 AM
Can Freddie Prinze Jr. star in it? He'd be great! And much c
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
07:11:33 AM
Where does all the money go in Fountain?
by virkku
Aug 30th, 2002
07:22:39 AM
As for Aronofsky's rewrite scaring Pitt off of the film, bla
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
07:24:07 AM
Oh PUH-LEEZ get Joaquin Phoenix
by DonnaDarko
Aug 30th, 2002
07:24:34 AM
once again, aronofsky wouldn't have these problems if he mad
by Jungle-face-jake
Aug 30th, 2002
07:30:26 AM
Can Val Kilmer star in it? He'd be great! And much cheaper t
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
07:44:36 AM
Pitt?
by alpha
Aug 30th, 2002
08:00:33 AM
I blame the average movie-going public.
by Sod Off Baldric
Aug 30th, 2002
09:08:13 AM
Get Axl Rose, he'll grow a beard, and he's used to spend
by bc1970
Aug 30th, 2002
09:09:53 AM
Seven years in Tibet was a big hit in Europe
by sindala
Aug 30th, 2002
09:11:54 AM
There's always Pi II: Lemon Meringue or Requiem for a Dream
by Cutter's Way
Aug 30th, 2002
09:12:32 AM
The reason scooby doo makes millions....
by Snuggleskunk
Aug 30th, 2002
10:11:05 AM
Oh, get over it geekdom...
by WeedyMcSmokey
Aug 30th, 2002
11:05:16 AM
"What The Hell
by IAmLegolas
Aug 30th, 2002
11:30:53 AM
If Aronofsky does Batman, I'll stop watching his movies.
by Wee Willie
Aug 30th, 2002
11:49:57 AM
Now there's a totally uncontroversial statement...
by Snuggleskunk
Aug 30th, 2002
11:57:07 AM
Shouldn't the cast for TROY look at least somewhat Mediterra
by Vegas
Aug 30th, 2002
11:58:05 AM
PLEASE GET THIS MOVIE MADE WITH PITT!!!!!
by David Fincher
Aug 30th, 2002
12:08:22 PM
What actually did happen to "To the White Sea"?
by Seepgood
Aug 30th, 2002
12:23:51 PM
Bruce Campbell should be in The Fountain! And he should play He
by pedant
Aug 30th, 2002
12:31:53 PM
Can Joe Don Baker star in it? He'd be great! And much cheape
by rev_skarekroe
Aug 30th, 2002
12:42:33 PM
Maybe Pitt DIDN'T WANT to put this millstone around his neck
by WarDog
Aug 30th, 2002
01:04:35 PM
WeedyMcSmokey is right
by Declan_Swartz
Aug 30th, 2002
01:13:45 PM
PLEASE cast PITT as ACHILLES!
by Modern_Achilles
Aug 30th, 2002
01:45:12 PM
PLEASE cast PITT as ACHILLES!
by Modern_Achilles
Aug 30th, 2002
01:45:23 PM
I think they should make Batgirl: The Movie with Hulk Hogan as t
by Chaffro
Aug 30th, 2002
01:48:48 PM
Dumbing down the story
by arkansas
Aug 30th, 2002
02:03:35 PM
All this movie needs is Jon Peters sitting in the Producer's
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
02:22:30 PM
JOAQ RULES!!!
by Nekko
Aug 30th, 2002
02:28:08 PM
you know who you are
by DelSam
Aug 30th, 2002
02:35:37 PM
it could have been
by joeypogi
Aug 30th, 2002
02:54:19 PM
argghh...fucking tinseltown!!!!! *sigh*
by drjones
Aug 30th, 2002
03:22:14 PM
WB doesn't want another A.I.
by You Are Banned
Aug 30th, 2002
03:28:05 PM

by DuckStar
Aug 30th, 2002
04:53:00 PM
Can John Goodman star in it? He'd be great! And much cheaper
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
04:57:41 PM
Can Tony Danza star in it? He's be great! And much funnier t
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
05:02:07 PM
This from the guy who was in SPY GAME and MEET JOE BLACK.
by Cash Bailey
Aug 30th, 2002
05:44:43 PM
Brad Pitt in "Troy"
by lucyinthesky
Aug 30th, 2002
05:44:59 PM
Arnofsky has to make it for less.
by Aquafresh
Aug 30th, 2002
06:11:49 PM
Sindala - Seven Years in Tibet B.O.
by LenSp
Aug 30th, 2002
06:38:50 PM
Can Justin Timberlake star in it? He'd be great. And much c
by EliCash
Aug 30th, 2002
08:51:47 PM
Can Michael Jackson star in it? He's a great pedophile! And
by Regis Travolta
Aug 30th, 2002
10:59:29 PM
Eric Bana is a killer actor!
by Lonestarr2
Aug 30th, 2002
11:33:54 PM
Yep - Pitt and Damon and Bana - LISTEN UP WOLFGANG
by deeplyDisturbed
Aug 31st, 2002
12:05:41 AM
Pitt is the only game in Hollywood
by deeplyDisturbed
Aug 31st, 2002
12:09:54 AM
Also - do make 'To The White Sea' - and read the book, i
by deeplyDisturbed
Aug 31st, 2002
12:13:31 AM
Tragic
by ReverseOsmosis
Aug 31st, 2002
12:21:22 AM
Tragic
by ReverseOsmosis
Aug 31st, 2002
12:22:16 AM
I want this movie now!! and Eric Bana is a great actor
by Duty
Aug 31st, 2002
01:03:45 AM
He needs to make a paycheck picture first...
by TheMatarife
Aug 31st, 2002
01:14:54 AM
Yeah, you're right, dolphin560.
by Noriko Takaya
Aug 31st, 2002
01:55:05 AM
Greeks, Trojans and Pitts Oh My ....
by alpha
Aug 31st, 2002
02:05:28 AM
ving rhames
by uberbill
Aug 31st, 2002
02:07:30 AM
i connect to 2001.
by a goonie
Aug 31st, 2002
02:20:23 AM
the good thing is, at least the names being thrown around are go
by a goonie
Aug 31st, 2002
02:25:49 AM
RE: WeedyMcSmokey (about the profit & budget)
by virkku
Aug 31st, 2002
06:30:44 AM
This is the new fucking milennium...
by Mrs Danvers
Aug 31st, 2002
12:37:32 PM
Damn, things were going good there for a second!
by 007-11
Aug 31st, 2002
01:28:02 PM
Dolphin560 IS right Noiko
by Commando Cody
Aug 31st, 2002
07:02:26 PM

by Commando Cody
Aug 31st, 2002
07:08:04 PM
WB has a good reason to give up on this project
by virkku
Aug 31st, 2002
07:39:17 PM
ah yes, development hell...
by Renata
Aug 31st, 2002
09:28:05 PM
post script
by Renata
Aug 31st, 2002
09:32:51 PM
You know, Commando Cody. . .
by Noriko Takaya
Aug 31st, 2002
09:39:33 PM
Well said Commander Cody
by alpha
Aug 31st, 2002
10:16:38 PM
Oh, I'm not arguing that you need a bloated budget, alpha.
by Noriko Takaya
Sep 1st, 2002
12:17:49 AM
You know, Noriko
by Commando Cody
Sep 1st, 2002
03:55:53 AM
You know, Noriko
by Commando Cody
Sep 1st, 2002
04:24:52 AM
You know, Noriko
by Commando Cody
Sep 1st, 2002
04:51:18 AM
Obviously I've hit a nerve with you, Commando Cody.
by Noriko Takaya
Sep 1st, 2002
05:22:04 AM
Noriko...
by virkku
Sep 1st, 2002
05:43:08 AM
Can John Travolta star in it? He was in Battlefield Earth and th
by Regis Travolta
Sep 1st, 2002
09:10:31 AM
who's money is it, anyway?
by Renata
Sep 1st, 2002
12:52:13 PM
I understand, virkku and Renata.
by Noriko Takaya
Sep 1st, 2002
07:02:56 PM
Noriko, you're obviously welcome to have your own opinions,
by Commando Cody
Sep 2nd, 2002
05:41:58 AM
Reply to Noriko...
by Commando Cody
Sep 2nd, 2002
06:19:04 AM
O.K., Cody, this is my last post on this subject--
by Noriko Takaya
Sep 2nd, 2002
04:31:46 PM
Actors who can take up the role:
by Sugawata
Sep 4th, 2002
04:13:44 AM
Darron Aronofsky is an amazing director
by Whoseyourbishop
Sep 5th, 2002
04:09:28 PM

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