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DEEP BLUE SEA review

Ahhhhh.... DEEP BLUE SEA, the alleged suck ass film of the summer. The one that is supposed to be sooooo bad, that Moriarty was playing chickenshit and not even going to see it for free.

Why?

Well first off the name Akiva Goldsman is associated with the motion picture which means.... By default that the movie must in fact suck.... Akiva has been associated with some mighty powerful megatonnage of bombs here in recent years. The biggest being that red hot poker in the eye of a movie, BATMAN AND ROBIN. Now Akiva is hated by film geeks above even Joel Schumacher, simply because Joel wasn’t associated with LOST IN SPACE.... Which proved that the cinematic cancer needing to be removed was identified as being Akiva Goldsman. Now I have been feeling for quite some time that while Akiva’s writing isn’t the greatest on the planet, it is also not a plague onto mankind needing Nuremburg style burning treatments. I believe that Akiva has been stricken not with a disease, but with a curse. The curse of being associated with people that didn’t ‘get’ his scripts. Now on DEEP BLUE SEA, Akiva was a producer.... Not a writer, instead he was now the facilitator to either help usher a writer’s script through the film process, or contribute to it’s destruction. But no matter... his name is still a bane to most fans’ existence.

Then we had the next ingredient in the destruction of DEEP BLUE SEA.... Renny Harlin, a director that makes.... what I call almost movies. Movies that could have become a classic cool flick.... BUT something quite hideous is wrong with it. In CLIFFHANGER his villains were terrible, in DIE HARDER.... once again his villains just didn’t gel, in CUTTHROAT ISLAND.. his male lead stars kept leaping ship... first Harrison Ford, then Michael Douglas... Leaving him with Matthew Modine instead. Then the dismissal of Oliver Reed ultimately left... a weak villain. Then there was the Shane Black LONG KISS GOODNIGHT, a movie that is very very entertaining and for me... is probably his most complete film... save that the last act just kinda sucks for me. In all.... Renny Harlin makes entertaining films that just don’t follow all the way through.

And that was the reason why I went into this film with very low expectations. Combine that with some initial horrible test screenings, a fairly bad script draft that was available to read... Well. It just didn’t look like it could be good.

Now then. In the past 2 months the word has slowly but surely been turning around. Tweaking was being done to the movie through the testing process. Additional characters were being slaughtered by sharks. Romantic subplots being scissored here and there. It looked like it was actually moving along much much better... A recent screening up in New York, just a two or three weeks ago wound up with quite a few excited reviews.

So as I left my house today with Father Geek, I felt a slimmer of hope. There might very well be a chance that this movie might at least have decent scenes of a shark eating people. That’s what I wanted. Cool human food deaths.

In the line, people were mostly up for the movie. The trailer from Warner Brothers had done it’s job (unlike THE IRON GIANT trailers) and had grabbed hold of these people and made them excited to see this movie. Specifically that final shot of the trailer. That’s what they were excited about.

We stood out there in the Lobby of one of them damn gaudy Cinemark eyesores for over an hour and a half. Staring at various short short wearing babes, a STUART LITTLE standee, a WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH standee, banners for MYSTERY MEN. Also on tiny television screens trailers played out endlessly... too bad they were trailers for the first half of the summer.... sigh.

Dad was detailing his recent adventure with a man, a legend... an artist friend that we have often had adventures around the globe with. He had just returned from an excursion to the Gulf of Mexico to dig in the ruined blackened ash ridden home of the artist’s father. Digging and shoveling for remains of a family’s lifetime of acquisitions. Father Geek helping to identify the scorched remains for Insurance purposes.

Finally the line jerks forward and we are given admittance to the auditorium where we will be subjected to DEEP BLUE SEA.

I’m not excited in the least to be here. I hear one person say, “It can’t be worse than LAKE PLACID.”

“Hmph,” I say to myself. Ya see, it seems a lot of people are still not ‘getting’ LAKE PLACID, it’s not supposed to be SCARY... It’s a comedy, and if the studio had realized that and not tried to sell the movie as a giant alligator movie, and instead tried to sell the movie as a Smart-Ass Comedy that happened to have a giant Crocodile.... well... That’d be different.

Quint is there, and the group sitting behind us was very loud and... they were reacting to each and every slide on the screen. This is usually a clue that you are going to have to at least turn around 4 times to tell the people sitting behind you to SHUT UP. See... if people behind you are talking about life, rent problems, their boob job, where they hid the treasure... Well, that means they are paying the slides no mind and denotes a reasonable amount of disdain for talking AT the screen, whereas people that do nothing but talk about what is on the screen from instant to instant. That means they have NOTHING ELSE TO THINK and/or TALK ABOUT. Usually I move, but by this time the seats in front of ours were already taken.... sigh.... Well, maybe their inane dialogue will entertain me through this shitty movie.

As you can probably surmise I wasn’t in a very good mood. I wasn’t happy to be where I was for that moment in time. In fact, I was mostly thinking about how I’d like to be in some club on 6 Street with Annette Kellerman listening to some groovy music. I was also thinking about my egg carton I got from DREAMWORKS today (more on that on another story today)

When the lights went down and the trailer for STIR OF ECHOES came up... the first smile of the evening began. Then when the trailer for DETROIT ROCK CITY came on, I again smiled. I can’t wait to see that film. Then a new trailer for THREE KINGS which implies that there are many suitcases of gold, whereas the first trailer made it seem like all the trouble was for one suitcase of the stuff Auric Goldfinger dreams of. Ultimately 3 good trailers, all of which represented movies I would RATHER be seeing.

Also during this time period I noticed that the sound was turned ALL THE WAY up, and as I thought the people behind me were in fact talking non-stop through the trailers, in fact at one point they said, “Why’s it soooo loud?”

And if I had not been enjoying the trailers so much, I would have answered her with, “Because the only sound we are supposed to be hearing is coming from those speakers!”

Then DEEP BLUE SEA began. I prepared myself for the acupuncture this movie was going to give my brain. Thousands of needles, I thought, stabbed into my noggin. That’s what DEEP BLUE SEA would be like. I had a bottle of Advil in my car awaiting the inevitable headache I would be wrought with.

DEEP BLUE SEA

If this were a remake of JAWS it would suck so incredibly because at every single character level it is inferior and has none of that film’s brilliance.

If this were the same genre as JAWS, that being adventure, it would also suck. Structurally it just can not match up.

HOWEVER, this movie is not a remake of JAWS. This is closer to a Crichton movie. Think structurally in terms of Crichton’s work.

You have a talented group of people in a remote research facility and/or isolated area. These are people with singular skills that when working in tandem can overcome that which faces them, which ultimately was created initially by them in the name of science or the advancement of mankind. There is always a series of time limits and problems that will cause the problems to advance. And by the end of it all... Usually those least involved with the creation of the sin to humanity will arise the victor with perhaps one of the scientists that has now learned the error of their ways.

It’s very formulaic, but ya know what? I like that formula. It’s a favorite of mine. It goes back to THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE.... DOC SAVAGE... AGATHA CHRISTIE... You know.

Alright, now that I’ve caught you up to the genre of the film. It’s not horror or adventure... It’s Crichton-y. We’ve seen this in film quite often combined with the ocean/water.

POSEIDON ADVENTURE and THE ABYSS being the best of the genre when water is involved. A movie like... oh... Let’s say.... LEVIATHAN or DEEP STAR SIX being at the bottom. And a movie like DEEP RISING and SPHERE existing somewhere in the middle.

Well.... I do believe that DEEP BLUE SEA exists above that middle level, but still significantly below the first two. The movie is fun. Remember that word? Fun. It’s one of the primary reasons to go to a theater.

Are the sharks believable? I don’t know. I have never seen sharks move as fast as these do, but I have also never seen a shark with a brain the size of an engine block. Maybe smart sharks swim faster, though in the human world... Don’t smarter people run slower? Or is it that for my own personal ego, I try to use that as a justification for my own obesity. Hmmm...

While the sharks may be CGI-y... They are the best villains thus far in any Renny Harlin movie. Meanwhile, his good guys/gals are mostly forgettable with the notable exception of LL COOL J and SAMUEL L JACKSON. First, I would have advertised this film as starring Sam Jackson, just as Fox originally advertised ALIEN as starring Tom Skerritt.

Sure it’s not true, but sometimes truth is not the most important component of a movie marketer’s agenda. He/She is supposed to service the film as well as the box office. Now saying that, the trailers for DEEP BLUE SEA did not ‘give the movie away’, but they could have been a tad better than they were.

Then there’s LL COOL J, the true star of the movie. He’s the character that above all others shines.

DEEP BLUE SEA is not the reinvention of the wheel. It’s a straight formula film. However, the formula is played pretty darn well. The set up of this ‘near to the surface’ research facility made it most resemble ANDROMEDA STRAIN, though once again, I want to make it clear that it’s not as good as that film.

BUT.... It is still A LOT OF FUN. It’s got good jump scares. It has plenty of those, “What the hell are you doing you stupid character you,” moments. And at certain points you are feeling an awful lot like a crowd gathered about in a Roman Coliseum rooting for blood to be spilt. AND you get it. When people get eaten in this film it is VERY graphic and violent.

However, none of the deaths have the impact say of Quint’s death in JAWS, but that’s because the characters here don’t have near the development as that film.... Instead, they’re Crichton-style characters that have just enough establishment to show that they know when to flip a switch, how to jump a relay, how to bulldog this or that... Ya know what I mean?

Ultimately, if you want to see Sharks eat people real good. If you want to see POSEIDON ADVENTURE with a shark on the ship chasing you. The film is very much built upon a visceral reaction and not an emotional or thought provoking one.

It’s very much the film it is advertised as being. It is the shark movie of Summer 1999.

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Tomorrow is the day
by The Godfather
Jul 27th, 1999
11:18:37 PM
hmmmm
by Brendan3
Jul 27th, 1999
11:24:35 PM
ok, one good thing....
by gaveltogavel
Jul 27th, 1999
11:28:59 PM
Disappointed
by Kiwi-1
Jul 27th, 1999
11:37:36 PM
ok, blew that last talk back.... let's try again....
by gaveltogavel
Jul 27th, 1999
11:39:35 PM
AND I DON'T CARE THAT TITANIC ISN'T A FAWKING UNDERWATER FLICK,
by gaveltogavel
Jul 27th, 1999
11:42:36 PM
Jaws Too
by Powerslave
Jul 27th, 1999
11:56:27 PM
I've seen it
by dopefish3d
Jul 28th, 1999
12:08:57 AM
THREE KINGS trailer
by Brendan3
Jul 28th, 1999
12:19:28 AM
Is it me or is HARRY AFRAID to give a BAD REVIEW?
by Hellboy
Jul 28th, 1999
01:00:50 AM
Sorry, Harry, still reeling from your ridiculous Haunting review
by Nordling
Jul 28th, 1999
02:01:12 AM
i couldn't agree with hellboy more
by gaveltogavel
Jul 28th, 1999
02:02:16 AM
Harry's reviews are NASTY.
by RodimusPrime
Jul 28th, 1999
02:08:29 AM
i couldn't agree with hellboy more
by gaveltogavel
Jul 28th, 1999
02:10:52 AM
Fucking Americans.
by PMD
Jul 28th, 1999
02:40:02 AM
Question for INTELLIGENT film fans.
by litestorm
Jul 28th, 1999
02:50:10 AM
Harry Here
by Harry Knowles
Jul 28th, 1999
03:22:16 AM
Thanks for getting on the record, Harry
by Nordling
Jul 28th, 1999
04:05:59 AM

by gaveltogavel
Jul 28th, 1999
04:26:53 AM
Smart Sharks
by 655321
Jul 28th, 1999
05:02:47 AM
Jeez, Harry
by squidman
Jul 28th, 1999
05:11:54 AM
No, Harry. You are just wrong wrong wrong about LIS and the Har
by Drath
Jul 28th, 1999
05:17:53 AM
I love Renny's over the top villians.
by Clockwork Taxi
Jul 28th, 1999
06:04:25 AM
Harry makes a good point
by Gibbon
Jul 28th, 1999
06:15:45 AM
you guys are a bunch of losers
by looking-for-love
Jul 28th, 1999
06:34:18 AM
you go in the cage... cage goes in the water... shark's in the w
by Mean Ween
Jul 28th, 1999
06:58:44 AM
Harry Knowles it All
by GetBent
Jul 28th, 1999
07:13:01 AM
If U were Indian Harry I think I would call U Dances With Crappy
by Haystacks Jones
Jul 28th, 1999
07:31:08 AM
Re: Looking-for-Love
by Lord Shell
Jul 28th, 1999
07:34:18 AM
Back to the discussions..
by Fawst
Jul 28th, 1999
08:00:31 AM
Is Jabberjaw In This One?
by GrouchLord
Jul 28th, 1999
08:28:02 AM
Give 'em Hell Harry - but the movie is still a stinker! SPOLIERS
by 6666
Jul 28th, 1999
08:31:09 AM
Harry's Reviews
by The guy
Jul 28th, 1999
08:36:45 AM
Give it a chance...
by flynn1
Jul 28th, 1999
08:43:52 AM
You people....tut-tut
by pointy
Jul 28th, 1999
08:46:36 AM
Despite overwhelming negative buzz, Renny harlin shoots and scro
by Rodzilla
Jul 28th, 1999
08:53:38 AM
Gimme a break....
by G
Jul 28th, 1999
09:15:26 AM
Le sigh.
by KeyTheMetalIdol
Jul 28th, 1999
09:31:24 AM
"Extinct", "MEG" and the Jersey Maneater
by fonebone
Jul 28th, 1999
09:37:23 AM
same old harry bashing
by speed
Jul 28th, 1999
10:12:47 AM
FUNNY ASS SHIT!!!
by NuSchool
Jul 28th, 1999
10:15:32 AM
Harry, DBS, RLR, BWP, WWW, and dumb ass loud mouthed talkback ba
by AlternateVersion
Jul 28th, 1999
10:43:32 AM
Renny Harlin's villains are AWESOME
by ABking
Jul 28th, 1999
10:50:41 AM
Why are you doing this?
by Chew-Z
Jul 28th, 1999
11:02:52 AM
How did this review of DBS turn into a debate on "The Blair Witc
by Rodzilla
Jul 28th, 1999
11:05:01 AM
You are all so damn predictable and Akiva Goldsman is Satan!
by Cineman
Jul 28th, 1999
11:14:51 AM
I like Harry's reviews.
by RyaSKre
Jul 28th, 1999
11:50:55 AM
Harry Review Mad Libs
by Lyon
Jul 28th, 1999
12:33:57 PM
Simon Says Cinemon Play in Traffic
by JessMasters
Jul 28th, 1999
12:38:40 PM
villianous behaviour
by Powerslave
Jul 28th, 1999
01:03:40 PM
'event' movies and JJGittes
by Powerslave
Jul 28th, 1999
01:11:47 PM
diSTuRbingLy bRiLLianT
by gaveltogavel
Jul 28th, 1999
01:37:13 PM
A Question and a comment
by The guy
Jul 28th, 1999
01:52:53 PM
To the guy, From Rodzilla
by Rodzilla
Jul 28th, 1999
02:06:35 PM
One Comment.
by ******
Jul 28th, 1999
02:09:40 PM
$8 !!!
by tj_director
Jul 28th, 1999
03:17:32 PM
YOU JUST DON'T KNOW...
by Ferris Bueller
Jul 28th, 1999
03:49:38 PM
EXCUSE ME,CLOSE MINDED.....
by Ferris Bueller
Jul 28th, 1999
03:58:17 PM
harrys review is sooooo on the money here. deep blue sea =fun
by ryan mecum
Jul 28th, 1999
04:11:30 PM
Adventure
by mjbok
Jul 28th, 1999
04:39:45 PM
pleasantly surprised
by Krinkle
Jul 28th, 1999
04:51:48 PM
Another Renny Harlin stinker!
by Caligari
Jul 28th, 1999
04:59:44 PM
Its not the sharks...
by AlexDularj
Jul 28th, 1999
05:35:11 PM
Screw This "I just want to entertained" trite
by eltronic
Jul 28th, 1999
05:57:52 PM
Misc quick notes
by Sterling Wolfe
Jul 28th, 1999
07:08:23 PM
AICN is on payolla
by Reverand NHB
Jul 28th, 1999
07:16:33 PM
To HARRY: SCORES and SAFFRON BURROWS
by Mattman
Jul 28th, 1999
07:18:35 PM
I can't believe you people!
by Jazzman
Jul 28th, 1999
07:25:05 PM
DBS= Even TURAN liked it ...
by BrianSLA
Jul 28th, 1999
08:12:37 PM
Deep Blue See It
by The Godfather
Jul 28th, 1999
08:50:06 PM
Deep Blue See It
by The Godfather
Jul 28th, 1999
09:20:19 PM
Please, somebody stop Renny Harlin before he directs again!
by Shadowdancer
Jul 28th, 1999
11:34:26 PM
Deep Blue Sea as good as JAWS? Damn Close.
by RazorWire
Jul 29th, 1999
12:32:22 AM
Blair Witch Bandwagon?
by Quint
Jul 29th, 1999
12:52:51 AM
The Summer
by darken
Jul 29th, 1999
03:07:38 AM
DBS rather good **SPOILERS**
by Peyton Westlake
Jul 29th, 1999
03:21:59 AM
DBS as good as Jaws? Man, the giant bunny rabbit movie is bette
by Nordling
Jul 29th, 1999
03:49:13 AM
Make up your own minds
by CONvergeguy
Jul 29th, 1999
06:29:46 AM
IRON GIANT trailers (slightly off subject)
by vondoom
Jul 29th, 1999
07:30:15 AM
Deep Blue Sea a lot of fun
by Jack Burton
Jul 29th, 1999
07:47:53 AM
DBS
by fusebox
Jul 29th, 1999
11:35:50 AM
You think water's fast, try ice!!!!
by lalapoo
Jul 29th, 1999
11:54:56 AM
the guy
by Gibbon
Jul 29th, 1999
01:37:51 PM
YAPNWER (yet another post no one will read)
by Valinor
Jul 29th, 1999
01:43:05 PM
Rabid film geeks - "How long have they been synchronized?"
by Bri
Jul 29th, 1999
04:07:47 PM
WHITE FOLKS GETTING CHOPPED UP BY SOME SHARKS- GO SEE THIS MOVIE
by negroenforcer
Jul 29th, 1999
04:42:01 PM
Hmmm...
by Daboid
Jul 29th, 1999
05:16:42 PM
down below
by BRAK
Jul 29th, 1999
06:41:35 PM
JURASSIC SHARK delivers the goods
by Spacesheik
Jul 29th, 1999
07:27:43 PM
Crichton is a terrible writer!
by primemover
Jul 29th, 1999
08:34:21 PM
DBS..............
by misterWINKIE
Jul 29th, 1999
11:15:59 PM
Harry,ABking & Mattman
by litestorm
Jul 30th, 1999
03:36:51 AM
DBS Rocked
by ColdSun
Jul 30th, 1999
08:59:23 AM
CORRECTION
by Mattman
Jul 30th, 1999
11:15:11 AM
The Stripteas
by Mattman
Jul 30th, 1999
03:39:38 PM
CERTS WITH FLAVOR CRYSTALS
by PoopyPants
Jul 30th, 1999
04:41:22 PM
RENNY HARLIN HAIR CARE
by PoopyPants
Jul 30th, 1999
04:53:44 PM
Apples to Oranges
by el_distorto
Jul 30th, 1999
06:42:24 PM
DEEP BLUE SEA is a movie you must see TWICE
by ABking
Jul 30th, 1999
08:01:48 PM
About the strpping scene
by Nordling
Jul 31st, 1999
07:22:39 AM
Deep Blue "See" (No Spoilers)
by SwanEater
Jul 31st, 1999
12:25:48 PM
STRIP SCENE - Made sense
by Mattman
Jul 31st, 1999
02:10:51 PM
Go Sea it.
by Arnold T. Pants
Jul 31st, 1999
02:57:58 PM
RE: Stripscene
by Veidt
Jul 31st, 1999
08:09:29 PM
right to opinion!!!
by hangman
Aug 1st, 1999
01:10:46 AM
Samuel L. Jackson
by the saint23
Aug 1st, 1999
05:34:09 AM
Deep = Bad
by Blok Narpin
Aug 1st, 1999
10:48:06 AM
Deep Blues
by EvilTommy
Aug 1st, 1999
11:28:01 AM
Saffron and Her Skivvies
by papacito
Aug 1st, 1999
01:50:45 PM
Dep Blue Sea is proof of why THX exsists.
by ABking
Aug 1st, 1999
02:49:04 PM
THIS MOVIE ROCKS!!!!!
by prajadhipok
Aug 1st, 1999
05:03:13 PM
correcting mattman's posting & ABking
by litestorm
Aug 1st, 1999
06:55:04 PM
Why DBS is fun and why these TalkBacks are so frustrating
by Freud
Aug 1st, 1999
07:21:01 PM
DBS box-office was still good; should have legs
by ABking
Aug 1st, 1999
09:30:27 PM
This movie is really cool!! Spoilers
by scurvyhore
Aug 1st, 1999
10:18:55 PM
OOPS and Shark Attacks
by Mattman
Aug 1st, 1999
10:23:57 PM
Scurvyhore - "Error of her ways"
by Mattman
Aug 1st, 1999
10:32:55 PM
SHARK infested POSEIDON ADVENTURE
by surfwolf
Aug 1st, 1999
11:35:36 PM
The reason she takes her clothes off is....
by LOS GORDOS
Aug 2nd, 1999
02:41:21 AM
I liked DBS...
by Imagikafan
Aug 2nd, 1999
11:43:23 PM
Deep Blue Sea = Eight
by MikeE
Aug 5th, 1999
11:39:03 AM
DBS too recycled
by TomBlack
Aug 5th, 1999
10:13:14 PM
Not a jaws remake! not jaws on steriods!
by Pinball Wizard
Aug 6th, 1999
10:23:20 AM
DEEP BLUE SEA
by ddd
Aug 13th, 1999
10:59:07 AM
A good renter or matinee
by TAN-MAN
Aug 15th, 1999
08:20:57 PM
different - Warning spoiler!
by NeuroHoser
Aug 19th, 1999
11:35:00 PM
Deep Blue Better Than Jaws!
by MikeE
Aug 20th, 1999
08:22:20 PM
chill out
by Antoinette
Aug 29th, 1999
05:24:53 PM
I can't believe anyone LIKED this movie
by Buffalo Bill
Mar 31st, 2000
12:46:58 PM
Why did the sharks have to miss LL Cool J?
by Wolfpack
Aug 17th, 2006
08:47:54 AM

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