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An OUTLANDER Review Comes Crashing In From Germany's Fantasy Filmfest!

first? by TooWhippy	Aug 20th, 2008 06:49:38 PM

bring it on! by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 20th, 2008 06:53:45 PM
at least it's not some CGI-laden piece of soulless Hollywood trash.
Uwe Boll by Mr_Wes	Aug 20th, 2008 07:01:04 PM
Was he there?
I liked Outland by G100	Aug 20th, 2008 07:03:53 PM
Yes it was High Noon on a moon, but still.. a pretty good film considering. This sounds crazy enough to be worth a watch on DVD if not a Cinematic outing.
This movie sounds fucking stupid. by Ironhelix	Aug 20th, 2008 07:05:10 PM
Always has.
Worked on it. by TheDudeinLA	Aug 20th, 2008 07:09:04 PM
I had the pleasure of working on the last stages of this film last year at Fantasy 2 for the underwater sequences. Jim worked so hard on this. He free dived into our water tank. By the time the day was over his eyes were swollen shut because of all the chlorine in the pool. It looked really painful...but he didn't complain. On the last day he came around and thanked the entire crew. I hope the film comes out well. I will be there!
ICH BIN EIN PLANTSPOTTER by ArcadianDS	Aug 20th, 2008 07:10:31 PM

retarded by Octaveaeon	Aug 20th, 2008 07:13:14 PM
seems that word is doing a bit of a comeback.
CoC in the House by Freds_Balls_in_a_Mason_Jar	Aug 20th, 2008 07:13:47 PM
Fred always wanted to say that! We want Outlander!
FInally Fred is here....dude AICN sucked today without you... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 07:32:12 PM

TheDudeinLA-- are the rumors true? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 07:33:31 PM
Does Caviezel make all of the crew refer to him as Jesus?
They should really re-boot Superman by samurai sark	Aug 20th, 2008 07:33:59 PM
I'm just saying
Erick the vicking anyone? by quilo2008	Aug 20th, 2008 07:38:32 PM

I've never met Jimmy Cavz by samurai sark	Aug 20th, 2008 07:39:25 PM
but I did catch a whiff of Kyle MacLaughlin's hair once. It smelled, like, all dreamy and stuff. If this movie is anything like Reign of Fire, them I'm in. If this movie is anything like D-Wars, then I'm out. I like dragons, but not that much.
"You're crazy" by Joker Gordon Levitt	Aug 20th, 2008 07:41:38 PM
"I'm not... No, I'm not."
D Wars sucked fucking balls..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 07:43:22 PM

Viking badassnicity? by Fred	Aug 20th, 2008 07:45:58 PM
Do "The Whale Road" by Robert Low. Vikings cross-pollinated with Indiana Jones.
"dearly wish for an all-out-war-man vs. alien-movie" by Playkins	Aug 20th, 2008 07:58:16 PM
Uhhhh.... Starship Troopers?!? Not war enough for the kraut? Whassa matter Jerry, the uniforms scare it out of your memory?
Best dragon movie ever by Joker Gordon Levitt	Aug 20th, 2008 07:59:48 PM
was Flight of the Dragons, featuring the voices of James Earl Jones and the late John Ritter. That was a classic cartoon that doesn't get enough credit. 2nd fav dragon movie? Hopefully Outlander.
Mysterious Yobo -- how dare you by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 08:17:50 PM

the love story in "flyboys" ruined that movie by JimmyJoe RedSky	Aug 20th, 2008 08:18:20 PM
this guy is right - some movies should just play up and focus on their strengths - the last thing i want to see in a movie like this is cute kids and love stories - people will go for the action, fx and monster on viking combat
Germans use the phrase, "MO' FO" ? Interesting. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 08:22:14 PM

where the hell is "mutant chronicles"? by JimmyJoe RedSky	Aug 20th, 2008 08:22:34 PM
shit, ill settle for a straight to blu ray release - come on already - same with this outlander - just release it on disc already - quit fucking around while it sits on a shelf - people want to see these you uptight studio assholes - cut your losses and get them on blu ray - rated R too
Yeah, that review matches the trailer and... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 20th, 2008 08:23:17 PM
...Everything else that I've seen on the film.
Stay away from Mutant Chronicles... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 20th, 2008 08:26:10 PM
...Its a hideous pile of shit. Yes I've seen it, even though just watching the trailer was warning enough. It's like a white boy Casshern, ugly dumber and uglier. The only benefit is that its interesting to see a movie worse than the output of Courtney Solomon or Uwe Boll. Okay...maybe not worse. As bad as.
I love all you pompous cunts trying to convince me.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 08:35:55 PM
...this movie doesn't look good. Oh fuck off. This movie looks awesome. And to quote the great Emilio, "You can go to hell...hell....hell...."
Eine Kleine Plantische! by xevoid	Aug 20th, 2008 08:45:30 PM
Kraut! Ist eine Plantishe! Jah! Das ist RICHTIG!
bodet by aestheticity	Aug 20th, 2008 09:15:36 PM
every talkback with one of three lines. zzz, stairs or robots. its like a trolling that never ends. how many years, and still nothing better to do.
Mutant Cronicles is terrible, truely awful by Mr_X	Aug 20th, 2008 09:33:36 PM
yep its true, not even tom jane can save this movie. it's fricking hideous a mish mash of concepts, think bad company the comic book, cronicles of riddick and The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2. words cannot really do it justice. it really is the worst movie i've seen this year. outlander, i've said it before and i'll say it again market it as Predator.
Space Jesus in Narnia by scrivener	Aug 20th, 2008 09:41:59 PM
This sounds like low-budget tits. Can't wait to see it stateside.
I still think Caviezel should play Superman by DarthBakpao	Aug 20th, 2008 09:45:03 PM
and Caviezel would never say "fuck" because he's a devoted catholic
DarthBakpao why can't devoted Catholics say FUCK? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 20th, 2008 09:46:52 PM

There's been a lot of good movies this year... by Rakafraker	Aug 20th, 2008 09:54:56 PM
...so I hope that Outlander is at least OK. I love the premise. Of course it isn't going to be a "Dark Knight" caliber showing, but it sounds like some good escapism for a couple of hours. Let's face it though: This is only a warm-up to movies like "Thor" (Which I'm DYING to see), more "Conan" (Milus' vision was OK, but it wasn't the REAL Conan we know from the graphic novels), and many other possibilities. I think it's great that Outlander is messing with the stereotypical Viking or monster movie, it just sounds like it wasn't messed with enough. Let's face it, if we all go and see this and it makes a few bucks, every studio will want a similar movie, and one of them might just sink a boatload of money into making a truly stellar movie.
kids and love arcs by jofex	Aug 20th, 2008 10:03:10 PM
Um... well the boomerang kid works pretty well dontchathink? And then there's NEWT. Don't think she completely ruined ALIENS. And maybe young JOHN CONNOR in TERMINATOR 2? And well so its a stupid point. -AND- Well of COURSE studios don't say that. That's why its amazing and good when it happens! Geezus!
get the feeling reviewer didn't realize this IS Beowulf by smackfu	Aug 20th, 2008 10:15:28 PM
...and not borrowing from it. The premise of the movie is the Beowulf tale we know is actually the story of Jim vs Alien as seen through the eyes of simple nordic folk.
Sophia Myles is in it.. by CeejayNightwing	Aug 20th, 2008 10:41:50 PM
so I'm watching it and that's the bottom line. The Girl is gorgeous!
how bout edward furlong in T2? by TheDudeintheShadows	Aug 20th, 2008 10:52:38 PM
regarding kids in kickass action movies. i got plenty more where that came from
Feral Boy: The Movie by rxse7en	Aug 21st, 2008 01:19:05 AM
You know you want to see it.
@ playkins: Starship Troopers rocked by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 01:39:37 AM
but still lacked some kind of oomph regarding the war-theme (specially at the end) - I want SPR ind space! And Yeah, Ed Furlong and Newt were good - hmmm - both in JC movies. Both of them were important chracters for story and progress, here the kid "Eric" has no true thing to do exept being the replacement kid for the lost son of Jim`s- something you don not really need!
I like me another BEOWULF, keep them coming. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Aug 21st, 2008 02:06:41 AM

Annoying kids... by BiggusDickus	Aug 21st, 2008 02:17:12 AM
...are always added to films to widen the demographic (ie, rope in the kids) What the suits fail to realise is that kids despise seeing other kids on the screen. They don't 'empathize' with 'em and they don't have a 'hey, that could be me!' moment - they simply despise the little fuckers for getting in the way of the grown-up hero they really want to be. Compare and contrast Jake Lloyd in Ep I to Mark Hamill in Ep IV. Which do you think the 'kids' preferred, Hollywood?
Still, what yer man is saying here is... by BiggusDickus	Aug 21st, 2008 02:19:33 AM
'Reign Of Fire' crossed with '13th Warrior', right?. Hell, I'll give it a go!
Yeah, because those two movies... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 21st, 2008 02:26:41 AM
...Weren't giant piles of shit or anything.
Righteous Brother... by onezeroone	Aug 21st, 2008 03:46:34 AM
How about Inglorious Bastards? The way AICN is going about this one, is putting me off... never imagined that would happen, me not looking forward to a QT flick ):
by Mr_P	Aug 21st, 2008 05:49:38 AM
inglorious Bastards will be shit QT has lost it......and he only really had it for a short time but is still getting away with it on past glories
Look out for Valhalla Rising next year by Cat_Corporation	Aug 21st, 2008 06:28:46 AM
A Scandinavian (Danish) Viking movie directed by Nicholas Winding Refn who made the nasty little 'Pusher' trilogy, and starring the lovely Mads Mikkelsen. If you only know him from Casino Royale, you're missing out - he's great. As far as I know, it's English language and it's currently being shot in Scotland (check out You Tube and Twitch film). Sadly though, looks like it may also have a kid in it - hopefully he won't be too annoying!
Righteous Brother by DerLanghaarige	Aug 21st, 2008 06:59:14 AM
What about 300? Snakes at least knew that it was a dumb movie, but 30 is probablöy the most annoying movie of the last decade and AICN loved the shit out of it!
Aliens, Vikings and creatures oh my.. by JamesT	Aug 21st, 2008 07:06:21 AM
How can anyone bitch about the premise of this movie. I mean for the love of God, you are on Ain't It Cool News. What do you want? More W reviews?
Speed Racer... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 21st, 2008 07:07:56 AM
...Moriarty loved both of these films. Sky Captain was a fucking horrendous pile of shit pimped by Harry. Snakes On A Plane isn't really fair though, since ever goddamn internet site was sucking that flicks dick, and it really had the cahnce to deliver a good bad film experience.
regardless of this review... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 07:10:49 AM
This is prime viewing at the Pillow household. While my hopes for stupidity maybe raised too high, I think it'll deliver. Not every movie can be Doomsday quality.... Oh yes, Doomsday kicked so much stupid ass.
Doomsday kicked my ass... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 21st, 2008 07:31:56 AM
...Right into annoying boring land. It was stupid, yes. Also ugly, obnoxious, inept and amazingly cheap and nasty looking DESPITE its larger budget. Plus booooring as bat shit. That chick was hot though. Outlander, I expect, may kick as much stupid ass as Sphere or Event Horizon or The 13th Warrior.
WhinyNegativeBitch by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 08:01:38 AM
So what's your point? Obnoxious and inept are some of its stronger points. And the 13th Warrior is an awesome movie.
For Outlander! by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:05:02 AM
I might have missed it, but he goes into spoilers, say everything save the ending, and then doesn't actually even address his probs with the ending? Is that right? I'm not slagging reviewer, but honestly mentioning the movie has a kid in it doesn't really relate to me why it is bad. He doesn't talk about said kid's performance. I'm looking forward to this, but my expecations have always been tempered. How could they not be? It seems too like he wanted a different movie than it was.
As long as the kid says... by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 08:12:42 AM
It mostly comes out at night ...mostly Or in Viking speak..Grunt mostly grunt grunt grunt grunt...mostly.
For Toad!!! by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 08:14:32 AM
Neigh means Neigh! Or in Viking speak..nevermind, they don't take neigh for an answer.
What is the status of this movie? by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:17:30 AM
Again, I have a tendency to trust Mori's original review, he did afterall refer me to similar stuff like Pitch Black and Equilibrium, and while not brilliant movies, I had alot of fun with them. This looks in the same vein.
So, question to the reviewer.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:30:16 AM
is there any complexity to the Morwen, or is it just a viscious nasty beast? Mori seemed to suggest there might be more to it than that. Or he was just saying it might be a SMARTER viscious beast than we are used to.
Also, by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:31:20 AM
how long will this movie bounce around, before being dropped somewhere? Wouldn't it be better to just do something with it now?
I say strike while interest is high by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 08:43:06 AM
That was part of the problem with Snakes on a Plane. It was hype, hype, hype...long delay, then release. If they had timed the release a little sooner then I bet at least 30% more box office take. Of course I don't think has the same level of hype, but I'm excited.
start advertising it now, and while October might be a little so by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:46:45 AM
I bet you could get an eary January release, and make a bit of money.
Damn, Chitty! by toadkillerdog	Aug 21st, 2008 08:46:53 AM
You are learning quickly my former padawan
@ Jonah Echo by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 08:47:29 AM
there is some complexity to the Morwen, yes. They give it kind of a background which actually is nice but it`s not much. Still, the Morwen rocked
Regarding Kids in Movies by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 08:50:11 AM
Newt and Furlong were good- but they also were part of totally different movies. Here, you just DO NOT need a kid besides the fact that it lends a tiny bit of more depth to Jim`s character. Still, I just have seen Tropic Thunder - and the kids in this movie are great! (Although nothing tops Tom Cruise in this. Nothing!)
Romoehlio by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 08:50:39 AM
What kind of intelligence did the Moorwen show? Predator smart or Xenomorph smart?
Romoehlio by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:53:48 AM
thanks for the comments. I think I understand your position better. Sounds like the kid isn't a character, but just a plot point for Jim to recall his old family. Regarding the ending, did you silike it because it was predictable, or somehow went against what had come before, was implauisble, etc? Or was it just unsatisfying?
that should have said "dislike" it. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:55:26 AM

@ Jonah Echo II by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 08:56:20 AM
The kids performance is fine. It`s just the character itself (wait till you see his "transformation"). And regarding the ending part- it was meant in the way that during the end the monster is simply toned and tamed down to give the guys a chance. although there is a reason for that it still is, compared to how it rocks before, simply sad
Sort of like the kid in Gladiator by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 08:56:30 AM
Reminded Crowe of his kid. I don't mind that at all. What I don't want is the kid going along in battle and tossing rocks at the Moorwen with a slingshot.
Romoehlio by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 08:58:32 AM
Can it breathe fire or fly? I really could care less about character devolopment or love angles, I just want to know how badass this creature is.
Chitty.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 08:59:20 AM
that would almost be nutty enough to work...but also silly.
@ChittyChittyGangBang by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:01:46 AM
Don`t know about intelligence but it is one mean sucker when it comes to tear some dudes up. I would tend to Xenomorph or if even just "Relic"
Romoehlio, fina inquiry.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:01:55 AM
And thank you for both the review and fielding the questions regarding it. My question is, do you typically like creature flicks? For ex. what were your thoughts on the following? Pitch Black Deep Blue Sea Thirteenth Warrior Mimic Reign of Fire. Not all of those, but maybe just enough to get a feel for your taste? Thanks again, dude.
@ChittyChittyGangBang II by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:04:46 AM
So you want to know it all, huh? OK SPOILER!!!!!!!! It looks like the "Relic" but also has one mean little tailsection that it uses like a whip (three whips). It also has "Bioluminisence" (think Abyss-glowing) - which also makes for one really bad-ass-kill. It can`t fly, it can`t breath fire!
Not too much of a spoiler there.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:08:33 AM
the trailer showed the tail whip and the bioluminescence. It sounds like we have a B-movie winner here, even if it isn't quite a full blown "good" movie.
@ Jonah Echo III by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:10:05 AM
Pitch Black - liked it a lot. The crash at the beginning of this is (although shorter) quite similar Deep Blue Sea - liked it and really enjoyed it at the movies 13th Warrior - was Ok but I can`t really remember much. Wasn`t it toned down to get a better rating? Mimic - had some pretty good and tense moments Reign of Fire - I would have loved to see it going more full-scale (again, budget i think. putting some apaches on the one-sheet and then only have people jump out of a chopper is not the same) but as it is i do enjoy it every time I see it. Especially the endfight. I really like movies like that but I think its time to go f-ing full-scale. Get me Michael Bay!
Thanks Romoehlio! by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 09:10:48 AM
In case your are wondering I'm the guy that cares more for the creature than the people in the movies. I just wanted to make sure this was an original creature idea, which sounds like it is. Also unlike most on here, I do not really mind mild spoilers, but they do so I won't ask too many more detailed questions.
Thanks, Rom...if I may shorten it, of course. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:11:50 AM
Sounds like your coming from about the same taste-level as myself. Have you seen any other films at the festival?
You may by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:14:59 AM
No i haven`t. Was out of town during most part of last month. Even was coincidence that I saw them showing Outlander. And now its over. But I scanned the programm- sounded good, although I relly hoped for Sukiyaki Western Django - they didn`t have it...
Romoehlio by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 09:15:17 AM
You had me until "get me Michael Bay".
Hey Rom by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 09:16:51 AM
You can put a < p > (close the spaces of course) at the end of a sentence to get a paragraph. I'm not trying to be a smartass by any means, but it makes it easier to read the longer posts. Also, have you seen Dragonslayer?
Michael Bay = TFD by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:17:20 AM
WAIT - I used it as a synonym for full-scale-destruction :-)
there is only one TFD... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 09:19:03 AM
and Bay ain't it.
ChittyCGB by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:19:14 AM
thanks for the tip and no i haven`t
The who is just pillow talk? by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:20:12 AM
really curious
Rom..you didn't miss anything by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:21:29 AM
with Django. It was TOO much of a mess. Barely coherent, and as a result, you have to try and enjoy it,and pretend like you are in on whatever oxygen deprived in-joke Miike is peddling. And I say this as a guy who loves Zebraman and Happiness of the Katakuris.
Shame by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:23:51 AM
I really liked the trailer and myself some fun Samurai-Western-Whatever. Good to know
Actually.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:24:09 AM
I'd totally a watch a movie with dragons directed by Michael Bay. And I have to say, the movie I imagined when Touchstone announced Reign of Fire(and were rumoring that Ahnuld would be the villain)was far more of a big bright action film. When the trailers gave us that blue tinted, post-apocalypse rocky field look with smoky dragons, I became a little disappointed.
you should prob still see it.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:24:48 AM
in case I'm wrong, but try to find some nice cheap way of seeing it.
no Romoehlio... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 09:25:46 AM
It's a poster who calls himself Total Fucking Destruction. There are theories that it's actually one of the site contributors using that handle.
Trust me Rom find Dragonslayer by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 09:27:03 AM
There is no CGI and the dragon looks amazing. It is still the standard by which I judge all dragon movies. It is a Disney movie, but don't let that fool you, as it has nudity and virgin suicide by dragon.
it would suck Jonah... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 09:27:21 AM
Too much focus on some teenage hero and like fifteen minutes of dragon screen time.
Oh yeah, I remember him... by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:28:19 AM
Still, sometimes he may allow someone else to use TFD!
the trick would be get a good writer.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:28:55 AM
and then give it to Bay, and only let him plan the explosions, not behind the camera.
Will do CCGB by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:29:29 AM
Sounds pretty good!! And Jonah, I will wait for the Dvd to rent SWD
Dragonslayer by toadkillerdog	Aug 21st, 2008 09:29:44 AM
I concur. The Gold standard of Dragon Movies. Thanks for reminding me Chitty. I will watch that again very soon.
They just should make the prequel to Reign of Fire by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:31:05 AM
That could be what everyone thought Reign of Fire would be - Dragon vs. Mankind - full scale!
Dragonslayer is a great movie.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:32:29 AM
I just watched it the other night. It's one of the finest examples of 80s fantasy. Ralph Richardson is awesome. As is the Vermithrax.
Whoever mentioned by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:36:24 AM
Flight of the Dragons, good on them! That was a cool little animated movie. I recall seeing it back in the 80s and just really getting in to it. It was one of the things that cemented my status as a young fantasy fan. Loved James Earl Jones as the voice of the villainous wizard. And also, the Troll with the peg leg!
I second Reign of Fire Prequel! by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 09:37:17 AM
Show the fall of man. Show it!
Ash.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:37:40 AM
why so critical? Go see the movie, and get us your lyrical review, ASAP!
AshMonday by Romoehlio	Aug 21st, 2008 09:41:55 AM
It is OK - has a lot going for it, has a lot going against it. It could have been better, then again, a lot of movies could have been. make out of that whatever you want. And I think Termaire really would make a good movie but will never find a huge audience... then again, even Dragonheart made more then even didn`t it?
I really liked Dragonheart.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:48:50 AM
always have. Don't understand the dislike. It was one of the better movies that summer, along with The Frighteners and The Arrival. That was the summer most of the B-pictures were better than the big budget stuff like ID4, Mission Impossible, Twister, etc.
How is the Huston guy in this movie by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:52:07 AM
He looked like he was sporting the Karl Urban medieval hero look. At first glance at the first teaser, I thought it was Karl.
Also, is John Hurt by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:52:40 AM
just phoning it in, or actually giving us a good portrayal as the fading king?
sad to hear by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:53:26 AM
that Mutant Chronicles isnt any good. Of course it looked suspect from the trailers.
No Sky Captain love, at all? by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:54:14 AM
I'd agree with Mori and company. That movie may not be great, but it was a great time at the theater for me.
I Also Saw This In Berlin by davidaq	Aug 21st, 2008 09:54:18 AM
Cinema was completely packed, literally wasn't a spare seat in the house, and the crowd really seemed to enjoy it. Personally I thought the film was great, cool pic that straddles a few different genres well and comes across as a nice mixture of Predator/Braveheart/Beowulf, but still feeling pretty original on it own. Everything here is handled a hell of a lot more intelligently than what you'd expect from a movie which is essentially 'Giant Alien Vs Vikings', cast did a good job, and the kid was fine (he has like 3 lines in the entire fucking film) Basically anyone who enjoys Sci-Fi Action/Adventure done well should be looking forward to checking this one out when (and if) they get the chance, It's a fun film.
pillow....where have you been? by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 09:54:19 AM
And who is....TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION?
Sky Captain was very dull for me... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 09:57:53 AM
It felt like it was so trying to be a Star Wars prequel. Angelina is fucking horrid in that film....and the designs are good, but the story just falls flat for me. I wanted more shit in the city. The second it went to that island jungle place I was done....
davidaq, thanks for the review.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 09:58:19 AM
is this more of a PG-13 or an R in rating? Also, your opinion, Morwen complex or simply savage?
I still think Mutant Chronicles looks great... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 10:00:44 AM
...to me it looks like a better Sky Captain almost. I think a lot of people just go in not having love for these sort of films...they want everything to be Hugh Jackman running around in a fucking wife-beater.
I liked Sky Captain by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 10:02:49 AM
No complaints here. Something new and different. Worked for me. I mean it had giant robots...Helloo?
Rating Etc by davidaq	Aug 21st, 2008 10:06:54 AM
Id think PG-13, its didnt seem to graphic in my eyes. The Morwen is actually pissed off for a reason, and does have a backstory, so while I wouldnt exactly say 'complex' I did have some sympathy for it by the end of the film.
Sky Captain broke my heart Jonah by toadkillerdog	Aug 21st, 2008 10:08:09 AM
I am a huge fan of the Fleischer(sp) Superman cartoons. I bought them when they first came out on Beta! So, I have loved the look of them for a very long time. When I saw the trailer for Sky Captain I damn near stroked out. I could not believe that someone had translated the look of that animation to the big screen. I could not wait to see that movie. Opening night I was there. The scene with the Robots flying then marching on NYC - just like in the most Iconic of the Fleischer animation, was pure joy. Five minutes of greatness. Then it all came to a screeching halt. The the actors opened their mouths. It all fell apart. Describing Gwyneth as wooden is an insult to petrified trees. A beaker filled with bacteria had more chemistry than her and Jude Law. Then the story just fell apart. Then the visuals stopped being as great as that opening scene. It turned into a very sad movie experience. I bought the DVD and it is still bad.
Yea, I saw Sky Captain by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 10:08:18 AM
at an old movie house and I really felt like it was true to the spirit of a 30s picture. The only real downfall is that Law and Paltrow arent quite charismatic enough to hit the acting style of the time.
Danny... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 10:08:54 AM
I've been busy at work and I've taken a few half days this week. Plus I've been busy redoing a bathroom. And you've never been in a thread with Total Fucking Destruction?
Rating Etc by davidaq	Aug 21st, 2008 10:11:11 AM
Then again, if something like Pitch Black got an R in the US maybe this would as well. Im from Australia originally, and Outlander would almost certainly get an M there (which comes in between PG-13 and R)
TFD examples... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 10:13:30 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/37214#comment_213 5149 http://www.aintitcool.com/talk back_display/37849#comment_221 9284
just pillow talk by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 10:18:56 AM
Oh hell yeah I have.....I love that shit, "If Indiana Jones 4 disappoints, it shall be TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION." I was meaning who do you think he is? Whats the theory?
toad -- I agree... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 10:21:18 AM
Maybe it was the casting of Sky Captain that ruined it. The visuals were great. I just don't think there was enough cool robots tearing up the city shit. That was only like 5 minutes....and again Angelina's character. What is wrong with you people?!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
oh...that's he's one of the site contributors by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 10:23:05 AM
using a second handle to post that random shit like Quint for instance.
Pillow by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 10:24:06 AM
That line about TDK is fucking hilarious, I love how he uses all character names except for Morgan. He is still just Morgan. Joker: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION Batman: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION Morgan Freeman: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION Alfred the Butler: TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
Sky Captain was not good by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 10:24:17 AM
I think the concept was solid, but the execution failed. And Danny's right, Angelina should NOT have been in it.
and he always appears when you least expect it by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 10:26:06 AM
I love when a talkbacker invokes his name in the hopes that he shows up and...lo and behold there is TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION. The joy and happiness that now accompanies that thread is quite a tangible thing. TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION = Christmas.
Seriously, when they finally release Outlander.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 10:29:18 AM
It wil almost warrant an actual in the flesh meeting of the COC,or whatever we are these days. Like some three day long film festival where we all meet.
Festival of Creature Features...nice by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 10:32:31 AM
Outlander, Dragonslayer, Jurrasic Park, etc.. Also have a shitload of cock and cases of Everclear. That should be shitloads of Coke (You know for those who don't drink) Sorry Danny, had to throw out that reference, as I still laugh about that.
Sky Captain by ArcadianDS	Aug 21st, 2008 10:35:37 AM
was and still is a fun adventure movie. Yes, some of the acting was stiff, but I've seen it 4 times now and it hasn't really bothered me. I just assumed that Law's character was a bit of a dry witted stiff himself. Paltrow is trying to recreate the stereo-typical 'girl looking for a big scoop' you see in the backgrounds and margins of countless noir flicks. Those characters were traditionally wooden becaues they were cast with front office personnel - "hey Sally answers our phones and uses the typewriter in the office. She could do this quick part right here, couldn't she?" - so again, I didn't have a problem with her in Sky Captain, because I think it worked as a send-up to all those who played that same character before her. Also the movie tried to stay light and fun while being dramatic. If Im flipping channels and its on, I watch it.
ArcadianDS by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 10:42:10 AM
I've only watched Sky Capt once, but I seem to remember not enough robots like Danny said, or enough action. And I do remember not liking Angelina's character. Much like almost anything else with me, I like to view a movie a second time to make sure I didn't miss something.
ChittyChittyGangBang by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 10:43:02 AM
shitload of cock and Everclear, eh? Sounds like Richard Simmons' Bar Mitzvah.
Arcadian by toadkillerdog	Aug 21st, 2008 10:43:27 AM
One name: Rosalind Russell.
oh yeah....that was my Lethal Weapon 5 pitch..... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 10:45:09 AM
Danny spitting and drooling all over himself while being tortured, and shitloads of COCK!! YES!! What happened to the guy that made the handle: SHITLOADS_OF_COCK?
Danny I looked for that guy earlier by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 10:55:30 AM
Wonder what happens to those guys that just post once and disappear? Anyways, I'm picturing Richard Simmons vs. a Moorwen now. Simmons "Oh settle down you big bully!" Moorwen: Slashes tail, ripping a tree in half right behind Simmons. Simmons: "Oh I know you did-ent!"
When Mr. Caviezel strikes down with his wrath by TOTAL_FUCKING_DESTRUCTION	Aug 21st, 2008 10:56:15 AM
It shall be TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
Richard Simmons vs. Moorwen by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 11:06:45 AM
Simmons "Oh settle down you big bully!" Moorwen: Slashes tail, ripping a tree in half right behind Simmons. Simmons: "Oh I know you did-ent!" Simmons runs up and overhand slaps Moorwen on side of its head. Simmons:"Bitch!" Moorwen, confused by this strange behavior from what usually is prey, retreats for second while confused. Simmons: "MMmmm, Hell no you did-ent just turn your back on me!" Moorwen is so confused at this point it leaps into the woods to regroup. Simmons, who is red in the face from getting so flustered, realizes his flaming attack has worked. Simmons: Snapping finger over his head as he spins around to walk back to camp.."That's what I thought! Fussy britches handled and now for you fuzzy britches! Come here to me..." Simmons skips towards a Viking who seems more confused than the Moorwen as he tightens his grip on his sword...
Richard Simmons by TOTAL_FUCKING_DESTRUCTION	Aug 21st, 2008 11:08:24 AM
and a roomful of alter boys TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
wa-hoo!!!!! TFD in da house! by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 11:08:31 AM
It's like Beetlejuice, but different.
Chitty by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 11:08:40 AM
I look forward to future installments where Simmons meets The Brimm.
OUTLANDER will be this years JUNO. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Aug 21st, 2008 11:08:46 AM
or not.
I think I like this one better TFD... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 11:10:23 AM
Oliver Stone and a roomful of high prices Hawaiian whores-- TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION
Juno?! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:10:52 AM
That would kick ass if there was a scene where the Morwen tore Ellen Paige's head off.....while Diablo gave Jesus Caviezel a lap dance in the background to a GNR song.
hahaha....oh shit there HE IS!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:11:13 AM

Maybe TFD really is Santa. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:11:53 AM

TFD inhabits a different plane of existence by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 11:12:02 AM
than us mortals.
Cat_Corporation, I'll be looking for VALHALLA RISING. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Aug 21st, 2008 11:13:06 AM
It has my interest.
If TFD was Santa... by just pillow talk	Aug 21st, 2008 11:13:49 AM
He would be Bill Goldberg in Santa's Slay.
Vahalla Rising sounds awesome... by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 11:17:51 AM
Looking forward to it. And Outlander.
Santa's Slay? Hahaha.....did you ever check that by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:19:04 AM
out?
Dannyglovers Dickblood by DarthBakpao	Aug 21st, 2008 11:20:13 AM
Because you don't find the word "fuck" in the bible. It's a dirty word. Okay, i still think Caviezel should be Superman, who's with me?
ONE THING YOU SHOULD NEVER TRY TO DO IS by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION	Aug 21st, 2008 11:21:32 AM
impersonate TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
DarthBakpao -- uhhhh......you don't find the word IRRITABLE... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:22:02 AM
...in the Bible. So that makes it dirty? How do you know what words are in The Bible? Did you translate it from its original text?
DO YOUR HEAR ME T_F_D? by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION	Aug 21st, 2008 11:26:51 AM
take your underscores and shove them up your urethra until your prostate receives TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
Dannyglovers by DarthBakpao	Aug 21st, 2008 11:36:06 AM
Ok it seems pointless to go on discussing whether the word "fuck" exists in the bible or not. Now, what do you think of Caviezel as Superman? I can't seem to get people to agree with me on this perfect casting
DarthBakpao by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:41:24 AM
I think he has the look....but he is a little too much of a weirdo. He can't really play normal for Clark....
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:41:49 AM
Hahahaha...how many are there?!! FUCK!!
Can you imagine if Caviezel.. by ChittyChittyGangBang	Aug 21st, 2008 11:46:09 AM
Played his Clark Kent like his character on Pay it Forward? Kent:"Uh, Hi.." Lane: "Oh Hi Clark what is going on? Did you beat that dealine for the City Council story?" Kent: stares at a paperclip on the floor while gently rocking on his heels...doesn't respond. Lane: "Clark are you stoned or high on something? What is going on?" Kent: Realizing Lane is correct on both observations..."Uh, Hi..."
yeah he is a total fucking weirdo.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:50:28 AM
in interviews for Passion he gave me the fucking creeps. Thats not to say I dont like him...he just cant play normal people.
Cock Tease....you totally killed the mood there... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 11:59:32 AM

Danny.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 12:02:04 PM
shall we head back over to Twitch for a bit and overthrow the Bush TB?
yeah Jonah...I'll be over there in a bit... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 12:02:50 PM

kid in an action movie that rocked by DeadPanWalking	Aug 21st, 2008 12:08:04 PM
Short Round.
Kid that rocked the action by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 12:50:44 PM
The bad ass kid in Phantasm....he fucked fired guns and chopped the Tall Man's finger's off with no hesitation. He took care of business....
I'm sorry but... by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 01:18:22 PM
I think you guys are missing the point of Sky Captain. You have to understand that is not a regular Hollywood movie per se. That was something that a guy just started on his computer. He was just a fanboy/movie lover like any of us. He eventually sold the rights to it just so he could see it completed. Because of that, you really have to respect it for what it is.
Damage_Inc by toadkillerdog	Aug 21st, 2008 01:36:45 PM
I'm familiar with his backstory, and I understand that a first time Director with big name stars may capitulate more easily to the stars acting choices than a more seasoned director. But, it still does not excuse HIS choices. It was his script and his movie and his editing. The movie fell apart with boring sequences and nonsense. The chemistry thing between Law and Paltrow was not his fault. But he could have given Paltrow a copy of the Front Page - with Rosalind Russell if she was so hell bent on trying to recreate a 30's style female go-getter journalist. He should have seen how ineffective her acting was on the dailys. And why is it, that Sky Captain, who seems to have an entire mercenary army at his disposal, was the only one fighting the robots in New York - or anywhere else for that matter? I mean if it was a budgetary decsion, ok. But it seemed more likely to be a writing choice - a bad one at that. The big reveal of the villain being dead and the plans being on automatic - well that just sucked. Took any final confrontation/resolution right out of the movie. I think it is telling that he probably sold the movie with those first five minutes of outstanding Robot action in NYC (I can forgive SC fighting alone in that scene because I just loved those Robots). But, when it came time to deliver the rest of the movie, his lack of experience and lack of skill as a director, and writer, proved his undoing. I do understand your point though. If this had been a no name cast -it would have been more forgivable, and perhaps a geek favorite.
No Surprise here by Wolfman Nards	Aug 21st, 2008 01:52:33 PM
Except he didn't say it was 100% god awful which is what I would expect. yes, the premise is retarded. How the hell did this make it past studio execs? It sounds like the plot to a direct to video 80's movie starring the guy from Eddy and the Cruisers movies.
toadkillerdog by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 02:19:20 PM
That sums it up pretty good. I'm glad there's someone else who knows the back story, to at least know what I'm talking about.
Damage_Inc by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 02:47:30 PM
I have to go easier on Sky Captain because the guy was a fan like us? Uhhhh....he had $70 million dollars at his disposal and he totally fucked it up. He had some nice designs, but story, casting, and execution was shit. IMO he fucked up an amazing opportunity. I love the genre.....but he just didn't have the talent to pull it off.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 03:05:56 PM
OK, maybe I'm seeing it through rose colored glasses. I just don't remember the acting, directing, etc. being that bad. I do remember that the whole Angelina thing made me want to cringe, but I get that same reaction when I see her do any of her lame tough chick roles. I do understand that the story was weird, but it was meant to be. That was the point. It was a tribute to old weird serial movies.
Damage..I'm with you... by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 03:20:34 PM
I loved the movie. I walked out of it, listening to "Over the Rainbow play", with my wife and my parents at an old school movie house and felt like I had just seen something lifted from that era, with cgi of course. The only scene that lost me was the Atlantis attack-too much like videogame. The rest was truly a piece of fun, and the nostalgiac bits really worked. I liked the look, liked the action, liked the silly little plot. And if you want some company, Damage: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com /apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 040917/REVIEWS/409170301/1023 As I said, it's a personal fave, and I watch it often too. Movie looks great on a big screen, and up-converted. Just a ton of fun.
Also, Danny liked Sound of Thunder.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 03:21:35 PM
so take that it into consideration. Heh.Heh.
Peter Hyams could out-direct Kerry whatever... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 03:27:15 PM
..his name is any day.
Jonah Echo by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 03:35:33 PM
That Ebert review is exactly how I feel about it.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 03:38:40 PM
Can you explain to me how you can appreciate Sound of Thunder for what it is and not Sky Captain? I'm just dying to know.
Quiet highlights of Sky Captain by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 03:46:18 PM
Like when he had the girl's name hidden in the letters of his plane. Or when the girl carried around the camera with one shot left and then decided to take a picture of the guy instead. And then forgetting the lens cap! Those are both clever writing examples.
Loved the little elephant.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 03:47:56 PM
from Bride of Frankenstein and Godzilla's guest appearance in the news paper, and King Kong's tree.
And the great line.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 03:48:21 PM
"Vienna Sausauges. God, it's been a long time."
Damage_Inc -- sure.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 04:00:02 PM
Sure....Sound of Thunder cost 20 million less than Sky Captain. Sound's visual effects company went bankrupt halfway through the production and they had to make due with what they had. So taking that into consideration, you have to respect it for what it is-- like you wanted me to respect Sky Captain for what it is. Sky Captain is a first time director with 70 million dollars....sure. Sound of Thunder is a seasoned director with a shit visual effects company and 50 something million.....here are some reasons for Sound of Thunder rockin' my world: Angelina Jolie is not in Sound of Thunder. Ben Kingsley is....and even though its one of his worst roles of his life, he is still better than any cast member of Sky Captain. Sound of Thunder looks cheap as shit, but its no gimmick. Its not trying really hard to be something it is not. Sound of Thunder reminds me of all those great cheap ass Sci-Fi channel monster movies I love. Sky Captain reminds me of the worst moments of the Star Wars prequels.
A bit off topic but.... by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:15:40 PM
"Ben Kingsley is....and even though its one of his worst roles of his life" you haven't seen War Inc. yet, have you?
Damage_Inc -- hehehe...no I have not. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 04:20:21 PM
Though I retract my statement anyway about Kingsley, I forgot about BloodRayne. Fuck me was he funny in that....but he is meant to be scary.
And BTW DG, by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:20:33 PM
I CAN appreciate Sound of Thunder for what it is. Unfortunately, most people can't get past the terrible effects. Now that's a movie that may be ripe for a remake.
War Inc. by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:24:26 PM
Imagine that villain guy from Wild Wild West with Will Smith. You know, the guy in the wheelchair thing. Instead of an idiot with a bad Southern accent, you have a homosexual Ben Kingsley instead. It's horrendous.
The worst part was when... by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:26:51 PM
Ben Kingsley tried to make out with John Cusack before attempting to kill him. I'm not kidding.
Damage_Inc -- make out before killing him?!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 04:28:03 PM
Hhahaha....thats the funniest fucking thing ever. It would be even better if he was the vampire from BloodRayne in a wheelchair trying to make out with both Cusacks.
Inept and obnoxious are what make... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 21st, 2008 04:31:21 PM
...Doomsday boring and unwatchable. It's anti-fun. You thought the 13th Warrior was awesome!? Oh wait, you just admitted to having shit taste and a masochistic taste for dull, lazy, boring films. War Inc. Would have gone down as a classic bad movie, if we hadn't seen a year packed with the likes of Speed Racer and The Happening.
Dg by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:34:08 PM
I'm happy to report that John Cusack successfully avoids the make out session and then dumps Kingsley into the back of a garbage truck as it is mashing the trash. Thus, putting him in said wheelchair.
That is too bad about War Inc. by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:38:12 PM
It had some descent satire to it, but it just dropped into absurdity too many times. It is about like watching a car accident. You want to look away , but you just can't.
Sound Of Thunders problems went way beyond effects... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 21st, 2008 04:38:58 PM
...It was a bad script to begin with. Everything about it was wrong. Bad direction, poor performances, bad conceptual design...I never really hated on it though, simply because it felt like I was watching a work print the whole time. Even in that state its a better movie than Sky Captain or the new benchmark of fucking awful "Actors standing in front of pre babylon 5 video game footage" cinema, The Mutant Chronicles.
WhinyNegativeBitch by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:40:14 PM
Did that final shot of War Inc. where the missile is launched at the plane mean that Cusack and company died?
OK, by Damage_Inc	Aug 21st, 2008 04:55:32 PM
Has anyone here seen War Inc.?
WhinyNegativeBitch -- dude you're taste in films is shit. by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 04:58:33 PM

Damage_Inc -- I will now!! by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 05:00:12 PM
That sounds awesomely horrible. What a fucking funny situation with Ghandi trying to blow Cusack in a wheelchair and gets compacted like the fucking Shredder in Ninja Turtles.
Speed Racer was damned entertaining by toadkillerdog	Aug 21st, 2008 05:05:34 PM
I enjoyed it thouroghly. It will be this generation's Tron. No doubt in my mind about that.
Speed Racer < TRON by mooli_mooli	Aug 21st, 2008 05:26:34 PM
I know of no-one who came out of TRON saying "meh...". I know of no-one who came out of Speed Racer saying anything but "meh...". TBH, I think this generation is too experienced from such a young age to ever have a TRON, an ET or a Star Wars. Shame...
I came out of Speed Racer saying nothing will top.... by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD	Aug 21st, 2008 05:37:29 PM
...it this year....and I still believe that. TDK is a close second.
Wow.. alot of movies being thrown against the wall in here.. by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 05:57:41 PM
Speed Racer was great. War Inc. was pretty junky. And yes, I think that's what the last shot meant Damage. Sound of Thunder should have been great, but it wasn't. There were lots of reasons, but mostly the fx. And WNB, what movies do you like? I don't think you should attempt genre films anymore. I dont mind that rudely, it just seems like you are setting yourself up for a bad time.
mean not mind by Jonah Echo	Aug 21st, 2008 05:58:10 PM

I liked Sound of Thunder by TheAD	Aug 21st, 2008 08:16:20 PM
I had a lot of fun watching it. Sure it was bad in parts and the effects weren't great but damn if it didn't make me giddy with all the crazy stuff it kept throwing at the wall.
Didn't mind Sky Captain by TheAD	Aug 21st, 2008 08:18:19 PM
But it didn't really do much for me. It was kind of neat, a little like the visual style of Sin City but it just lacked the necessary spark. I the end I just really didn't care about it.
Sky Captain is great by the milf lover	Aug 22nd, 2008 01:47:59 AM
I agree it suffers from bad acting by the whole cast (especially Paltrow, she was the worst thing about Iron Man) and lack of action, but I thoroughly enjoyed it! A great sci-fi concept that could have been amazing if given to a more experienced director. And Whiny, do you ever like anything? Doomsday was a masterpiece, it was over the top trash that reveled in its over the top trashiness, making it both the best and worse movie of the year!
Damage, I took it that they died... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 22nd, 2008 03:39:27 AM
...But who knows. I don't think anyone working on the film knew what the hell was going on. Yeah Danny, my taste sucks, but your a fan of Peter Hyams worst cinematic effort. You know, the guy whose high point was 2001 For Dummies. Tron was a visually unique and groundbreaking film. Speed Racer just looked like a shitty video game cut scene. Tron blew little kids minds, Speed Racer sent them to sleep. I love genre films, just not crappy ones like Doomsday or Sky Captain, i.e, genre films made as homages to genre films by people who only know genre films covered by Empire magazie. Doomsday is a perfect example of a b movie for people who aren't real fans of genre cinema. They aren't even into it enough to be fans of Raw Nerves output. It wasn't over the top or exploitive enough to be fun for the sake of trashiness, it was just a badly made action film, like something stuck to the bottom of Paul W.S. Andersons shoe. Some genre films I enjoyed this (some last cause of where I live) year would be, I guess, Hatchett, B13, Sukiyaki Western, Behind The Mask, Rest Stop, Joshua, REC, Vacancy...I don't know...Lots. I watch so many movies, and so many old movies, that only the really good ones or the really awful ones stand out. So while I forget about say...The Orphanage, a good film, or The Cottage, a bad film, I remember really bad movies like War Inc. or Speed Racer, or really good films like The Dark Knight or Pineapple Express. The thing with films like Doomsday, is that its neither better made, nor as entertaining, nor as trashy and over the top and fun as the films it steals from. I've seen Escape From New York and Escape From L.A. and After The Fall Of New York and The Bronx Warriors. I've even seen well made, fun riffs on the genre made recently, like the aforementioned B13. So why, or how, could I enjoy a lazy, poorly thrown together and watered down version? I mean, I tend to cut em some slack or laugh AT them a little more when its uber low budget junk, but when they have just wasted heaps of talented and shitloads of money, I don't know, its like asking my brain to enjoy the works of Michael Bay.
AND! by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 22nd, 2008 04:02:59 AM
Neil Marshall fans who claim to be genre fans are like Sum 41 fans who claim to be punk. Sure, your not as bad as Avril Lavigne fans (think Kurt Wimmer or equivilant) but your still embarassing.
@WhinyNegativeBitch: by joergn	Aug 22nd, 2008 05:29:37 AM
But Marschall´s "the Dencent" was pretty great, you have to confess. Guess he´s just hit and miss! Hell, I even loved Anderson´s "Event Horizon" and he didn´t made any good movie after that.
WhinyNegativeBitch by just pillow talk	Aug 22nd, 2008 06:57:00 AM
I have no doubt my taste differs from yours since I enjoy the more cheesy, shitty movies. I'm not sure if you understand that, or are you from the M-O-M perspective who's mind can get around the fact the someone can enjoy great and shitty movies at different levels? I enjoyed Doomsday just like I enjoy The Road Warrior. Daisy..great movie. The Warlords, solid fucking movie. The Protector? Silly fucking movie but I love Tony Jaa breaking limbs. The Devil's Backbone was good, not great. Love Pan's. I haven't seen the Orphanage yet though. And your broad painting of Neil Marshall fans is stupid. The Descent is a great movie, and Dog Soldiers ain't bad either. Your opinion is not right nor is mine.
I'll give you Descent, its almost a miracle... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 22nd, 2008 08:39:07 AM
...How fucking good the first two thirds of that film are. I mean, compared to his other work. The ending just completely ruined the movie for me...However, I know there are two versions out there, so maybe when I see the other version, it might click with me better. I don't know Pillow Talk. To me Mad Max 2 ISN'T a shitty movie. Its certainly got campny elements and its central premise is a little on the goofy side, but its a kick ass, exciting, thrilling, entertaining, well made action film. It's like comparing a John Woo action film to a Michael Bay one. The central conceits are just as ridiculous, but its all in the execution. The Orphanage is similar to the others and Devils. I actually liked it better than both movies, but like alot of horror films, especially ghost stories, once the mystery is unveiled, it kind of leaves a limp third act to get through. Check out REC though, for spanish horror. I saw the poster for the american remake at the cinema yesterday.
Yes, the other ending to the Descent is much by just pillow talk	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:03:41 AM
more appropriate. It's a shame that it was changed, for whatever damn reason. Oh, and I wasn't calling Road Warrior a shitty movie, I was saying I like good ones (I consider that one good) and shitty ones (Doomsday). I don't see REC on netflix though, unless I'm missing something. Tis a shame since I've heard good things about it.
Sky Captain sent me to sleep twice by Franklin T Marmoset	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:13:09 AM
Not twice in the same viewing. I gave it a go, and fell asleep. A year or so later, it was on the telly and I gave it a second chance... and fell asleep again. You are boring, Sky Captain, and also more brown than Alien 3, which makes you a contender for brownest film of all time.
how goes it Frankie? by just pillow talk	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:25:06 AM
Did you catch Hellboy II yet?
Hey Frankie - we are over on the Twitch TB by toadkillerdog	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:39:22 AM
Hola Pillow
Chitty - I know you will see this by toadkillerdog	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:39:56 AM
Neigh means Neigh!
REC and netflix... by WhinyNegativeBitch	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:40:09 AM
...REC got grabbed up and buried in the U.S. until the American remake clears its cinema run. Pretty aggravating, but thats what multi-region players...or the internet...are for.
As of today, it goes well, jpt by Franklin T Marmoset	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:40:19 AM
Been laid low with the flu since Sunday, which sucked, sucked, sucked. Still, I am now back on my feet and ready to do stuff that does not invlove lying in bed and aching. Although, I did treat myself to a sickness gift of the Bourne DVD box set, so I watched all those and loved every second of them all. Bright side to everything and whatnot. Hellboy II is now officially out here in sunny England, but I haven't had chance to see it yet. Hopefully, I should be seeing it next Tuesday or Wednesday, so I'll let you know how it goes. The first was on the telly at the weekend, so I gave it another watch and thoroughly enjoyed it. Goes a bit limp toward the end, but I just love watching Ron Perlman play that character. And I've said it before and I'll say it again, any guy who loves cats and works out while listening to Tom Waits is exactly my kind of guy. How are things in the US? Everyone there seems to be winning many medals. What's yours for? I got a silver in the men's 100 metre lazyness event. Pretty cool.
I am switching to Twitch by Franklin T Marmoset	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:43:12 AM
Whatever that is. Toad said so, and who am I to argue with toad?
Blistering Retort - Hey Chitty by toadkillerdog	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:45:47 AM
Neigh means Neigh!
Frankie... by just pillow talk	Aug 22nd, 2008 09:48:50 AM
I won a gold in ditching work a bit earlier and earlier each end of day for the past week. I've been going for an Olympic record for that one...
I know you looked Chitty! by toadkillerdog	Aug 22nd, 2008 10:15:54 AM
Gotcha! Neigh Means Neigh!
WhinyNegativeBitch by Series7	Aug 22nd, 2008 11:55:00 AM
If you are still around. You should be able to find [REC] on the interwebs easily enough. It was on google video for the longest time. But don't worry, when we get closer to the release of Quarantine, there will be a DVD of [REC] right before hand.
Watch "REC" before "Quarantine" by joergn	Aug 22nd, 2008 02:41:53 PM
hits the theaters, maybe you won´t find the genius original any more appealing after Hollywood ripped it of. Pretty much like the whole remade Asian-Horror-Flics.
Whiny NEgative Bitch by Lost Jarv	Sep 2nd, 2008 05:30:43 AM
you are hereby prohibited from ever venturing an opinion on bad movies again. Sphere? That underwater POS? one of the worst fucking films I've ever seen.
welcome back Jarv by just pillow talk	Sep 2nd, 2008 06:41:35 AM

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