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testing 1 2 3
by xega
Aug 21st, 2008
02:54:58 PM
test
Opie hates Nixon
by Baron Karza
Aug 21st, 2008
02:57:01 PM
Opie Cunningham!
3rd is then new 1st
by superfatty
Aug 21st, 2008
02:58:09 PM
so..1st
A new Ron Howard movie!
by jr42602
Aug 21st, 2008
02:58:51 PM
So, looks like I won't be seeing it...
that looks fantastic
by ArcadianDS
Aug 21st, 2008
02:58:59 PM
and i saw his brother.
I didn't think he was a bad Nixon
by tiltandflip
Aug 21st, 2008
03:02:26 PM
You really didn't like him Merrick?
Ron Howard?! Fuck me....hand me a shotgun....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Aug 21st, 2008
03:03:50 PM
...to blow the back of my fucking head off.
Gotta love that Fountain score.
by thelivingdoll
Aug 21st, 2008
03:05:05 PM
First they run the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack into the ground, then they turn on The Fountain. Bassards.
that looked pretty good
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Aug 21st, 2008
03:05:28 PM
at some point he does rip off the Nixon mask and reveal himself to be skeletor right? Right?
Bloody hell a grown up movie...
by thefrood
Aug 21st, 2008
03:05:33 PM
...on Aint It Cool News. That makes a refreshing change. And by the way this is an adaptation of what was one of the most acclaimed theatrical performances of the past 15 years featuring the original cast, so unfortunately your opinion of Langellas's performance is relatively immaterial Merrick. I'll be there on the strength of this trailer.
Langella
by HercsShowerRadio
Aug 21st, 2008
03:07:50 PM
...sounds like he's trying to do a Sean Connery impersonation. It's very distracting, a horrible Nixon.
Langella
by ABking
Aug 21st, 2008
03:07:54 PM
GREAT actor...love him as SKELETOR!
whenever I see Nixon now
by Cedar_Room
Aug 21st, 2008
03:08:11 PM
I can't help but hear Nixon's head in a jar from Futurama. Aroooooooooooooooooo!
Merrick, you idiot
by Thick McRunFast
Aug 21st, 2008
03:08:35 PM
Langella played Nixon in the Broadway play this was based on. Sheesh.
Looks pretty great
by conniebrean1
Aug 21st, 2008
03:09:42 PM
I think his Nixon is pretty spot on. We'll probably get to know more about him from this than we did from Stone's "Nixon." I'm looking forward to it.
Trust me. Langella works.
by Bungion Boy
Aug 21st, 2008
03:09:44 PM
I saw this a few times in New York. It's an incredible performance. I'll admit, in the trailer, with him wearing a little more make-up than he did on stage, he looks a bit more broad than he looked on stage, but it's not a detailed impersonation. This was an awesome play and it should be one of the best films of the year. The cast is perfect. Can't wait for this.
lookin pretty good
by Obscura
Aug 21st, 2008
03:10:03 PM
well, a well made trailer.
Greatest felony in American history??
by superfatty
Aug 21st, 2008
03:11:43 PM
Do I need to even go on. Don't get me wrong, Nixon was a moron... but greatest felony in American history? I don't think there is enough space in the talk back to list some felony's that have taken place in America's history. I understand it was the President, and I know every president has deep, deep, deeeeeeeeep closets, but c'mon. I know it's a movie, and it will be over dramatized blah blah blah. I just wish Ron would make something fun to watch. Guess I will have something to watch on DVD when it comes out.
What's with the Ron Howard hate?
by drewlicious
Aug 21st, 2008
03:23:19 PM
The man makes solid movies and works wonderfully with his actors. Cinderella Man still gets to me and I'm absolutely baffled why no one saw it.
Do any fornicating?
by StephenHawkingDiarrhea
Aug 21st, 2008
03:23:30 PM
The worst part of this trailer is Michael Sheen's hair. Looks like they used the leftover wigs from No Country for Old Men.
Any more Ponyo news?
by Baron Karza
Aug 21st, 2008
03:24:55 PM
?
All the Ron Howard haters are fucking Simple Jacks.....
by TheWaqman
Aug 21st, 2008
03:26:14 PM
He made "A Beautiful Mind" that alone makes him a talented director (well really, it was Crowe doing most of the work in that one though).
I agree with Merrick
by andieyougoonie
Aug 21st, 2008
03:29:06 PM
Not sure I buy Langella either as Nixon. The movie still looks good though.
Ron Howard is hit or miss.
by rbatty024
Aug 21st, 2008
03:30:55 PM
He's definitely talented and I really enjoy both The Paper and Apollo 13, but he does have a tendency to really ham it up. Every time something great happened in A Beautiful Mind it was offset by some truly terrible melodrama. I hope this film displays the more talented side of Howard.
Langella
by TheMcflyFarm
Aug 21st, 2008
03:34:33 PM
looks like Tom Wilkinson and sounds like Sean Connery in this movie. Neither of which is Nixon, but who knows...
I'm sick of Michael Sheen,he's a one trick pony.
by brock landers baby
Aug 21st, 2008
03:37:38 PM
And if I see him playing Tony Blair just once more I'm gonna postal.
A Boring Mind
by imagin78
Aug 21st, 2008
03:38:22 PM
A Beautiful Mind was an overwrought bore. The so-called twist was obvious from the beginning. Fellowship should have won best picture that year. Ron Howard is an average director with one great film: Apollo 13.
Howard can falter, but when he's on he's really on
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 21st, 2008
03:40:00 PM
Cinderella Man anyone? Just a fucking fantastic film. Why no one went to see it is ridiculous as is Crowe not getting an Oscar nod. That scene where he goes to beg for money from his friends is hard to watch it's so heartbreaking.
BTW my roommate is the valet opening Frosts limo
by IndustryKiller!
Aug 21st, 2008
03:42:23 PM
in the Cineramadome premiere scene. Just a funny little factoid apropos of nothing.
Appollo 13
by Wee Willie
Aug 21st, 2008
03:43:15 PM
Am the only person who hates that movie. Howard's two best movies are Splash and The Paper. This looks fantastic, btw.
Did Heath Ledger Do Richard Nixon as his Joker Voice?
by cookylamoo
Aug 21st, 2008
03:44:43 PM
or was he doing Rich Little doing Richard Nixon. Or was he doing Johnny Carson?
I completely agree that The Paper is Howard's best.
by rbatty024
Aug 21st, 2008
03:46:37 PM
By the way, what the fuck happened to Michael Keaton? Hook that man up with a great director, now!
Dude, Sam Rockwell!
by TheSeeker7
Aug 21st, 2008
03:48:56 PM
I'd had no idea he was in this, I've got such a man crush on him. As far as Langella, I think he's a fine actor, but from that he seems to be coming across like a guy doing a voice impersonation, much moreso than Anthony Hopkins did when he played Nixon.
Don't know why but I have the urge to buy Pantene.
by mrfan
Aug 21st, 2008
03:57:02 PM
Got to shine the hair.
the play was awesome
by jenkis
Aug 21st, 2008
04:07:38 PM
and much as I was worried that Ron Howard was making the movie, that looks pretty good. And Langella is excellent as Nixon (at least he was in the play).
Ron Howard...
by djscott95
Aug 21st, 2008
04:11:42 PM
Has actually made three good movies - NIGHT SHIFT, GUNG HO, and SPLASH... everything since has been overwrought, overacted, over melodramatic crap. That is all.
Langella...
by REDD
Aug 21st, 2008
04:12:59 PM
not sure, need to see the trailer on the big screen with better sound. I wonder if Ron Howard considered Russell Crowe for the Nixon role? I'd be interested to see what he would do with it.
The voice work
by DennisMM
Aug 21st, 2008
04:19:17 PM
Vocal mannerisms that fly in on stage often are too broad for the movies, as with body language and gesture. I like the sound of Langella's voice, the feeling, but he's pushing too hard to do a Nixon he can't really hit. It's not unlike what Bale did in "The Dark Knight" (if you'll allow a comparison between two such disparate films). Bale had a good idea and barely pulled it off in the first film. In "The Dark Knight" he pushed just a bit too hard and went over the edge, to the point where the gravel and growl actually became a lispy gargle. Taking it to 11 can be too much.
Ach - left this out.
by DennisMM
Aug 21st, 2008
04:19:44 PM
I rarely go to the theater, but I will catch this on DVD, most definitely.
Can't say...
by codymr
Aug 21st, 2008
04:27:33 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Howard. He is kinda hit and miss for me and plays it to safe too often in my opinion. But this looks interesting from the trailer.
Apollo 13 overdramatic?
by DennisMM
Aug 21st, 2008
04:38:43 PM
I guess in real life the astronauts and the ground crew and the families and the journalists and millions of people around the world found it all a big yawn. Yes, they kicked up the drama a little bit, but not much. Compare the film to Lovell's "Lost Moon" and you'll see how "melodramatic" Howard's film was - not very.

Meanwhile, Apollo program/Nixon crosstalk - if humans destroy ourselves and the environment of Earth, the only ready evidence of our existence will be space trash. That includes the descent stages of six LEMs on the moon and the plaques the astronauts left there. If anyone discovers those and can interpret symbols, they will find 19 signatures - eighteen astronaut's names, each appearing once, and six times the signature of Richard M. Nixon, president of the United States of America. Theoretically, alien visitors could be led to believe Nixon was the most important human being who ever lived.

*shiver*

ColWTH
by DennisMM
Aug 21st, 2008
04:39:48 PM
As many have said since, it wasn't the burglary that was the real crime. It was the cover-up. That's my view, also.
Merrick
by mr.brownstone
Aug 21st, 2008
04:44:09 PM
Perpetually dissatisfied. Although I think Langella might be a bit too ethnic to play Nixon, just like Dan Hedaya was in Dick. Nixon was as Wasp as they come, why keep hiring mediterraneans to play him?
brownstone
by SirLoin
Aug 21st, 2008
04:49:22 PM
That being said, I still think Dan Hedaya was the best on-film Nixon.
Ron Howard
by Damage_Inc
Aug 21st, 2008
04:53:50 PM
Is the poor man's Spielburg. Maybe the reason no one saw/cares about Cinderella Man is because they chose to name it Cinderella Man. WTF?
Looks fairly compelling
by kafka07
Aug 21st, 2008
04:56:13 PM
Langella doesn't appear to do any better or worse than Anthony Hopkins did. It's distracting at first but then you get accustomed to it.
Or maybe Spielberg
by Damage_Inc
Aug 21st, 2008
04:56:44 PM

by MikeTheSpike
Aug 21st, 2008
04:57:04 PM
Anyone and their mom can do a better Nixon voice. Like East Indian, Southern hick and Schwarzenegger, it's just one of those voices people do.
Cinderella Man
by Fineus Fog
Aug 21st, 2008
05:04:05 PM
is really underrated, I felt for Braddock in that film and I'm not that fond of Crowe - but yes, the begging scene was heartbreaking. On the other hand 'The Da Vinci Code" was truly awful - Hanks phone that fucker in from the Moon Anyway as a non American I'm not that familiar with the whole Nixon "thing" but I do know what he loks and sounds like - and it aint that
Rip Torn ...
by DennisMM
Aug 21st, 2008
05:13:00 PM
was a great Nixon on TV in the "Blind Ambition" miniseries. It wasn't a huge part, but he was great. Philip Baker Hall was pretty good in "Secret Honor." At that point in his life, he looked the part, too.
Nyer. Snarky snark. I don't think Sheen is enough like Frost.
by Moribundman2000
Aug 21st, 2008
05:25:21 PM
Sounds more like Tony Blair (again). Should be more "Hello. Good evening. And welcome." or "Let's see. Whose house. Iddiz." Not that any Americans or other non-Brits will know or care. To be honest it doesn't impede the flick, so why rain on Langella's Nixon? Hopkins was FAR more jarring and distracting, and that was still a compelling film.
This looks pretty damn good
by Mattyboy122
Aug 21st, 2008
05:27:12 PM
Although the Fountain music at the end was totally misplaced.
Death is the Road to Awe?
by Zeegloo
Aug 21st, 2008
05:27:13 PM
I love the score for the Fountain, but it had no place in this trailer. Oh well... On the other hand, the movie looks pretty fascinating.
And I don't get the hate on Bale's Bat-voice
by Mattyboy122
Aug 21st, 2008
05:31:08 PM
I thought his voice was a HUGE improvement in The Dark Knight over his Triple H/Alec Baldwin voice in Begins. It was much more beastly and raw this time around. I dug it.
Looks decent
by mefrog
Aug 21st, 2008
05:31:59 PM
Howard intrigues me - Apollo 13 is awesome, but Da Vinci code is worse shit than National Treasure. I think the Nixon accent may be a bit over-the-top but we'll see. I'm looking forward to this.
Wasn't quite sure about
by Freakemovie
Aug 21st, 2008
05:33:50 PM
Langella until the last line in the trailer. Sold the hell out of me with that one.
Not 'just a burglary'
by GiveMeAnFinBreak
Aug 21st, 2008
05:37:51 PM
Nixon did a whole lot more than just authorize that whole Watergate caper. That's just what he got caught for. Get a clue, folks. Read a book. The guy did more to fuck the Constitution in the ass than any other person in the history of this country ... until W. Also, he probably had a hand in killing both Kennedys. (If you call bullshit on the probability of that concept, you probably think the DC Madame actually committed suicide ... in which case, get off of your computer and back on the short bus, Corky.) And, yes, Ron Howard's flicks have a tendency to suck. Dong. But, I'm still going to give this one a chance. Who knows? We might even get another Apollo 13 out of him.
Bush has made Nixon seem quaint
by Anakin Whoopass
Aug 21st, 2008
05:44:40 PM
The core belief of Nixon that led to his downfall was that "if the president does it, it's not illegal." Young Dick Cheney believed in Nixon and old Dick Cheney did everything he could to convince George W. Bush to operate the same way. This time without a tape recorder. Or backup tapes for emails. Almost everything post-Watergate Congress did to prevent another Nixon has been happily undone by the Bush-loving/fearing Congresses of the last 7 years.
i'm sold
by antonphd
Aug 21st, 2008
05:47:23 PM
let the ghost of nixon haunt bush as he leaves office wondering what Obama is going to do to him.
I'm on the Cinderella Man bandwagon as well.
by Rev. Slappy
Aug 21st, 2008
05:47:51 PM
I thought it was fantastic and I was baffled by the apathy. It reminded me of Apollo 13 in how the film's climax was already known yet managed to create genuine suspense.
Langella was absolutely fantastic onstage.
by Lenny Nero
Aug 21st, 2008
05:56:45 PM
This looks just about right.
looks boring, not buying Langella
by reckni
Aug 21st, 2008
06:02:41 PM
Could be wrong though. I'll wait for DVD.
Brock Landers Bay
by Steve T
Aug 21st, 2008
06:05:06 PM
Sheen has played Blair twice you berk, thta's not exactly a one trick pony
high hoopes for this film
by Steve T
Aug 21st, 2008
06:09:26 PM
Saw the play in London and it was excellent. The leads both started off doing fairly strong impressions then eased off them once you were drawn in to stop the characters coming over as characatures.
Yay for all the Cinderella Man love!
by flickchick85
Aug 21st, 2008
06:14:24 PM
That scene where he begs for money is probably my favorite scene Russell Crowe has ever done, and that's saying a lot, b/c I think he's great. Truly heartbreaking scene, though.

And this looks good. I've heard Langella was just plain awesome in the show, so I'll hold off judgment 'till I see him in the final product. I'm betting the Public Enemies trailer will be attached to this flick, so that's all the more reason to wish December would get here soon.

And is that Fountain music already overused? Starting to seem like it...

Don't forget 'Happy Days'
by GiveMeAnFinBreak
Aug 21st, 2008
06:54:00 PM
The Fonz saved Ron Howard's career.
Langella sounds more like McGruff than Nixon...
by JackIsLost
Aug 21st, 2008
07:00:34 PM
The absolute best on-screen Nixon remains Dan Hedaya's portrayal in "Dick". If you haven't seen it, you should.
Danny
by Six Demon Bag
Aug 21st, 2008
07:11:39 PM
Show some respect...he made Willow. Willow!!!
Octagonproplex ...
by GiveMeAnFinBreak
Aug 21st, 2008
07:11:53 PM
Did you intentionally forget to mention The Davinci Code, or did you block that out?
anyone got a working link?
by BadMrWonka
Aug 21st, 2008
07:42:27 PM
I'd like to see this trailer...
octagonproplex
by shodan6672
Aug 21st, 2008
07:42:55 PM
Willow was a cool movie and A Beautiful Mind was well made, but not one of the films you mentioned was exceptionally directed.
My goodness...
by Rogue Trooper
Aug 21st, 2008
07:47:48 PM
My goodness...
by Rogue Trooper
Aug 21st, 2008
07:49:21 PM
...that was locked down quickly. I can't find it anywhere :-(
Howard's Movies are Adequately Made
by doodler
Aug 21st, 2008
07:57:48 PM
but they're always soooo melodramatic, instead of fun or exciting (excepting his early comedies).

For instance: how awesome COULD "Ransom" have been if a more popcorn-oriented director had done it, instead of Opie gunning for another Oscar nod?

Howard even poked fun at this when he was on the Simpsons - he pitches some melodramatic tripe (think Sophie's Choice) to Brian Grazer, who rejects him, only to steal Homer's idea, and sell it - but not before adding some BS melodrama to it first.

Ron Howard's movies (after Gung Ho, which should have been MUCH funnier, for a "comedy") all take themselves waaay too seriously and don't give the audience enough fun/excitement. I like Apollo 13 (and Cinderella Man), and they're good, but mostly humorless. In both cases (and in Beautiful Mind) he was working from a true story that was compelling enough to make a movie out of (by definition), and the "Direction" wasn't anything to write home about.

Actually, the direction/photography in Cinderella's fight scenes were grating as hell - where they punching the camera? WTF?

Trailer still working at worstpreviews
by Lorquaine
Aug 21st, 2008
07:58:05 PM
W/ Danish subtitles http://www.worstpreviews.com/t railer.php?id=900&item=0
CINDERELLA MAN is a fine film...
by JackIsLost
Aug 21st, 2008
08:35:12 PM
If you just fast-forward through all of Renee Zellweger's scenes. God, she's annoying.
You Got 1 Ronnie, stop chasing Oscar
by Six Demon Bag
Aug 21st, 2008
08:35:48 PM
when he started chasing gold, his films got exponentially worse...i'll give you cinderella man..that was good
Beautiful Mind is nowhere near worst best picture
by JackRabbitSlim
Aug 21st, 2008
08:54:06 PM
That dubious honor would go to Greatest Show on Earth from 1952 or so. Not even all that epic-looking - really cheesy circu-staged melodrama from Cecil B. Bad, bad stuff.
As for Nixon's disregard of Constitution - please - check out Li
by JackRabbitSlim
Aug 21st, 2008
09:01:06 PM
Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, disregarded Supreme Court rulings left and right - he depended on victory (which he got, obviously) to make up for his blatant disregard. You can argue (and probably would be right) that he did it with the best of intentions - but he flaunted it the worst. And all this Frank Langella doesn't sound like Nixon - hate to break this to you but Anthony Hopkins bore at best a passing resemblence to Checkers' master . Love that movie - one of John Williams most underappreciated scores - and probably my fave deleted scene ever - Sam Waterston wearing those freaky contact lens as the CIA director quoting the "Round and round the circling gyre" poem - tragic it got snipped.
I just hope there will be some fart jokes.
by TooWhippy
Aug 21st, 2008
09:07:49 PM
JacksRabbitSlim
by Neosamurai85
Aug 21st, 2008
09:56:09 PM
Really? It was snipped? Funny, I'd recently been meaning to check it out before seeing that scene on YouTube. It sold me on NOT seeing it! But in fairness, I'm a far cry from a Oliver Stone fan, so seeing just that scene screamed NATURAL BORN KILLERS - gee Stone likes his cocaine - to me. Anyway, I might talk myself into giving it a chance now. Do like me the Hopkins.
cunning ham
by illegal alien vs sexual predator
Aug 21st, 2008
10:28:31 PM
"I need to splash water on my face." -stupid Hanks line from DaVinci Code. I will never forget it. That movie ruined what little respect I had for him. Splash will always be remembered for teasing my puberty. Brief Nudity in a PG. Can't do that today.
A Beautiful Mind is somewhere in the middle...
by flickchick85
Aug 21st, 2008
10:49:21 PM
It's not one of the worst Best Pictures, and it's not one of the best. It's just a typical one. Off the top of my head, Greatest Show on Earth and Crash were FAR worse.

Ron Howard's not one of the most stylish directors, nor is he one of the more interesting ones, but he's definitely one of the good, solid ones.

Slap Me
by Cobbio
Aug 21st, 2008
11:55:17 PM
I've heard that Ron Howard is a super nice guy. Which I respect in an industry filled with back-stabbing assholes. Unfortunately, I'm just not a fan of his straight ahead style. He's so middle of the road visually and story wise that I grow bored with every film he makes. I WANT to like his movies, but I can't. There's no batshit inspired, reach for the fucking sky attitude in any of his work. There's only plodding, workmanlike determination. Which is fine, but I need quirkiness. I need anger, joy, and drama. I need creatively conceived visuals at least a fraction of the time.

I wish Ron well, but he needs to slap me across the face with something before I'll get interested again.

Bad Best Pictures
by djscott95
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:18:18 AM
Beautiful Mind is a bad one - but not one of the worst. "The Greatest Show on Earth", "French Connection" (beat Clokwork Orange), "Ordinary People" (beat Raging Bull), "Dances with Wolves" (beat Goodfellas), "Silence of the Lambs" (possibly the most overrated film of all time), and the list goes on and on. Beautiful Mind might make the top 20 tho
OH shit and I forgot
by djscott95
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:19:20 AM
kidding
by djscott95
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:19:57 AM
That list could go on forever... but Forrest Gump beat Pulp Fiction.. that should be considered a crime too
Having seen the braodway version...
by Darth Banga
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:33:54 AM
I'm psyched Opie didn't turn this into Coc-coon or DaVinci Code. Stone's Nixon was cool.
Not Nixony enough!
by BenBraddock
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:53:59 AM
Nah, that looked ...weird, actually. Reminded me of the Comic Strip cast playing Hollywood moviestars playing Arthur Scargill and Maggie Thatcher... just not as funny
Walked out of beautiful mind...
by p0llk4t
Aug 22nd, 2008
01:04:23 AM
Not because it was bad, but just because I was really bored.
I'd have to say
by codymr
Aug 22nd, 2008
01:12:10 AM
That this project interests me more than Stone's W. This kinda has a NETWORK feel to it. I think it has promise.
djscott95
by Neosamurai85
Aug 22nd, 2008
01:51:18 AM
I think there is a significant difference between bad best pictures and films that were poor choices in light of other films that appeared that year. To say that you think Clockwork Orange should have beat French Connection is one thing, but to say that French Connection is a bad film or to even mention it negatively in the same breath with Forest Gump and Crash... not cool. Then again, you lost me when you started ragging on Silence of the Lambs. Solid acting, good score, good plot. I can still come back to it and find something new, something to warrant that revisit. I wouldn't call it the greatest film ever, but classic worthy of its status, absolutely.
Micheal Sheen
by The_Skook
Aug 22nd, 2008
02:21:16 AM
Michael Sheen a one trick pony?! Really? He's played Tony Blair, Kenneth Williams, David Frost, a kich ass vampire... duh... hardly diverse at all! This must be the one trick pony that that does lots of tricks and isn't a pony. As for t' filum... looks good! Performances aren't always about impressions, they are about subtlety and capturing something other than copying the character.
Happy Days
by Lashlarue
Aug 22nd, 2008
02:26:44 AM
This movie looks good. The real interview is pretty intriguing in it's own right. Frost pretty much hammers Nixon the whole interview, and Nixon just stumbles about sounding like an idiot. And yes, Lincoln did a lot of illegal things as President. He also ended slavery, and kept this country from shattering into 2. Nixon can't quite measure up to that.
Damn You Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Aug 22nd, 2008
06:41:54 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
Ron Howard = Middle of the road YAWN FEST
by FleshMachine
Aug 22nd, 2008
09:03:26 AM
80's Ron Howard was cool..Splash, Cocoon, Gung Ho, Willow (yes Willow) and i like parenthood, and even Backdraft at the time...but Cinderella Man was lame, davinci uber lame, apollo 13 ok, well..fine..maybe he's not that bad. I never did see beautiful mind. I just find his films lack depth. All too obvious.
langella as nixon
by kaijupunk
Aug 22nd, 2008
09:47:37 AM
you DO know langella won the tony award for the stage version of this, right?
Ron Howard has real talent
by DennisMM
Aug 22nd, 2008
10:34:35 AM
but he's heavily dependent on a strong script and players. 'nuff said. Except this: "Willow" is a big bore. Just my opinion.

As for Bale's "TDK" bat-husk, I had trouble understanding him at times. The man's sibilance was so over pronounced I thought he might start spraying nearby humans. Or Rottweilers.

Chitty - Neigh means Neigh!
by toadkillerdog
Aug 22nd, 2008
11:25:16 AM
Gotcha!
worst best picture = "An American In Paris"
by ArcadianDS
Aug 22nd, 2008
11:27:02 AM
It beat Streetcar Named Desire for best picture.
Nightshift anyone?
by DoctorWho?
Aug 22nd, 2008
11:37:25 AM
Henry Winkler,Shelly Long, Michael Keaton. Still funny and Winkler is brilliant.
OPIE CUNNINGHAM! OPIE CUNNINGHAM! OPIE CUNNINGHAM!
by Nasty In The Pasty
Aug 22nd, 2008
11:40:02 AM
You shave off that mustache, you still look like my little Opie...!
The Oscars are a farc?
by Sepulchrave
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:26:27 PM
My God, Hollywood is being run by Colombian rebels? This explains MUCH.
You know what's great? The Dark Knight.
by Sepulchrave
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:32:58 PM
I thought the Dark Knight was fantastic. It was a movie but since this movie isn't The Dark Knight, I won't weary you and myself by discussing this movie, which is clearly inferior to the dark Knight, which boasted an excellent performance from Heath Ledger as the Joker, in case you didn't know, in the movie the Dark Knight, a Batman movie that I liked very much. There was so much to like about The Dark Knight that I am sure you are are far far from tired of hearing about the amazing IMAX cinematography, labyrinthine plotting and excellent ensemble acting that raises The Dark Knight above all other super-hero movies, all other action and crime movies, nay, all other movies in the history of all the movies in the world in history, all of which have now been rendered pointless exercises in preemptive failure by The Dark Knight, not to mention all the movies that foolishly were made AFTER The Dark Knight, which will crouch like tiny insects in the shadow of The Dark Knight forever. Thank you for your kind attention. Ooops that quote was not from The Dark Knight. I'm sorry Mr Nolan, it won't happen again. The Dark Knight. Excellent.
This screened at USC back in April....
by TiVo1138
Aug 22nd, 2008
12:56:58 PM
Leonard Maltin has a rule not to tell any director visiting what he thought of the movie. Not so in this case. He said it was great. From what I've heard, this is without a doubt, Ron Howard's masterpiece.
M-o-M
by DennisMM
Aug 22nd, 2008
04:30:01 PM
shit shit shit
by DennisMM
Aug 22nd, 2008
04:34:54 PM
been at work since 730 and I normally come in at 10. running on 5 hours sleep, and the bipolar does not tolerate that. I'm fuckin' tired.

M-o-M, being a cordwainer puts Howard above 70 percent of the schmucks putting movies in the theaters. He's technically skilled but easily led astray by weak scripts. He does best with light material, IMO, but sometimes rises above the paper in front of him to create truly interesting films, "Apollo 13" most notably.

Meanwhile - have you yet discovered a way to disagree with someone without being bitchy? Apparently not. They're movies, man, that's all. Great to shit, they're still just movies.

The very concept of Best Picture is absurd
by Neosamurai85
Aug 22nd, 2008
08:25:06 PM
Their is virtually no criteria. I mean we all have a pretty general instinct for when a film has met with disservice for not being nominated, but exactly what dictates the "best" picture relies on far too many variables. Critics verses crowds (sadly they are not the same) is just one factor. Also, if other films were clearly better a writing and directing and acting, then why in the end can film that didn't win any of those be the best? Because it was the most consistent in its scores, coming in second place in other categories. In the end best picture is an award for PRODUCERS, now, sometimes a producer really does deserve a great deal of credit for a film besides signing the checks and making some calls, but in the end, I'm not going to piss on one film just because some judges thought it's producer did a better job than another, because that's all this is about. The priorities are too vague. So like I said, bashing good films because you think others are better than the Oscars is lame. If you hate Crash or Beautiful Mind or whatever film, it should be because it is a BAD film. Period. But hey, that's just my opinion.
Re: farce?
by Neosamurai85
Aug 22nd, 2008
11:15:08 PM
Oh absolutely. Especially of late. I still get semi-excited about them for their ability to aid an artist in their career get recognition. Sadly, a lot of people do watch movies BECAUSE they won an oscar as opposed to just an initial interest in the film. Sorta a double-edged sword. So yes, I feel the same way about the best writer, director and actor categories (and all the rest), but I still get excited when P. S. Hoffman or Bardem win an oscar. It usually means they will have more freedom to get the roles they should have for awhile. As for the Howard debate, other than his last outing, I can't think of a film by him that I HATED, and even that film had small moments that on their own were kind enjoyable. His recent style is not really my thing (LOVE Splash), but I liked Cinderella Man overall despite the wife not really working for me. I mean, I find his films enjoyable. I got to give him props for Ransom having people be fucked up by going through a glass window (so sick of movies where people do it like it's nothing). The two biggest problems with The Missing were that it was basically a remake of a major classic of western cinema and that it was followed by some really strong westerns that blew it out of the water (3:10 and The Assassination of Jessie James right now make A LOT of recent westerns look shitty). I'm really not going to go through his whole filmography, but basically he doesn't automatically get me in the theater with just his name, but a I rarely don't give him a chance eventually and can't say he has left me too terribly outraged at the hours of my life that slipped past. As for M-O-M... eh. I certainly wasn't trying to get his back if anything came off that way. I mean... I TRIED not to be a dick about disliking-to-hating 80+% of Oliver Stone's output. Cheers.
Howard can be great.... why does The Missing never get any props
by togmeister
Aug 23rd, 2008
05:38:07 PM
That was a great movie. Okay, i would lose the voodoo stuff, but it's visually stunning, has some great lines ('This is what the rest of your life will taste like', 'I want your pain'), it's properly scary in places (what happens to Aaron Eckhart's character fully creeps me out), there's some terrific action and horse/gun play, it's tense, it's very well acted, has one of James Horner's best ever scores, and....look, what more do you want, you demanding fools?!
Togmeister
by Neosamurai85
Aug 23rd, 2008
07:23:14 PM
Curiously, I was talking to a crow indian about the film, ranting about how they went over the top with this weird Mohawk witch character, and he stopped me. "You mean a Bruja?" and I said yeah, that's what they called him, to which he informed me that that wasn't made up. They are "real" and really are that nasty. He actually seemed a little nervous. But anyway, from what I've gathered they really worked hard to keep that stuff accurate. I'm sure someone will follow me up with a call of bullshit, but yeah. Anyway, like I said before, the biggest problem with the film was a lot of better/more experimental films followed it, and if there's one thing that a lot of this board has shown (and pardon the possible pissy tone that could be read here but isn't intended) it's that if one movie is "better" than another one, the other one must suck. But yeah, I think I wasn't the only one that called B.s. where there wasn't any on this film, and that was its biggest problem.
Octagonproplex thinks
by GiveMeAnFinBreak
Aug 24th, 2008
08:29:16 AM
United 93 was a good movie. This is exactly why any opinion he may have on ANY subject should be considered null and void. That shit should have aired on fucking Lifetime. What a huge, steaming pile of horseshit that one was ...
James Horner.
by togmeister
Aug 24th, 2008
08:53:56 AM
Octo, i think Horner got some of his mojo back recently, with his work on The New World and Apocalypto. Just my 2c.
Worst "Best Picture"...
by Cujo_Fugate
Aug 25th, 2008
12:59:10 AM
is, without a doubt, Titanic. With Crash coming in a close second.
Nope ...
by GiveMeAnFinBreak
Aug 25th, 2008
10:54:32 AM
Definitely talking about the Greengrass version. If you dug that shit, I bet you're also a proponent of 'mumblecore' ... in which case, there's no helping YOU for digging that sort of lame, pretentious, wannabe arthouse fop.
Ron Howard is a good director.
by AgentArchangel
Aug 25th, 2008
11:20:56 AM
That's it. Not extraordinary, above average, certainly not the worst. (Uwe Boll might sucker punch you if you think otherwise.) He has some extraordinary films (Apollo 13), he has some overhyped films (A Beautiful Mind was ok, but not the best), he has some flops (Ransom was meh at best), and he has some underrated films (Cinderella Man. How come no one's mentioned Paul Giamatti's performance? Best one besides Crowe.) The man is an ok director, and I'm sorry to say I found the DaVinci Code a fine diversion. I wouldn't vote it best picture, but it was interesting. That having been said Frost/Nixon looks like prime oscar bait and I will definitely see this in theaters. Besides, what would you rather see, this or Twilight? As for overrated best pictures, Shakespeare In Love ranks up there. How the fuck does that beat Saving Private Ryan?
octagonproplex...
by AgentArchangel
Aug 25th, 2008
11:25:16 AM
...agreed. Horner just hasn't been Horner since Titanic. (Which was an EXCELLENT score, minus the Celine Dion screechfest called a "best song".) That having been said, maybe Giacchino could replace Horner on Avatar. I think he's got the chops for it.
As for Greengrass's United 93...
by AgentArchangel
Aug 25th, 2008
11:35:02 AM
...it was a damn good movie. Just not one you'd want to watch over and over again. It was still an excellent film, better than Stone's 9/11 propaganda puff piece "World Trade Center", which was a good movie in its own right but felt a little too idealized. (Plus, I thought U93 had an advantage of using people who were either actually involved in events of that day, or in the case of the passengers looked close to whomever they were representing.) They could have gotten top Hollywood talent, overblown the soundtrack with maudlin score, and released the film under the title "Let's Roll", but instead we got a fine tuned, documentary style film that shows us how things might have happened according to all the facts available. If anyone doubts Greengrass's historical cred, he did direct a little picture called Bloody Sunday a couple years back. Never saw it myself, but I hear it's quite good.
Arrested Development
by cbebop007
Aug 25th, 2008
02:13:49 PM
Forget his movies, Howard get's complete love from me for his involvement in "Arrested Development."
AgentArchangel
by GiveMeAnFinBreak
Aug 25th, 2008
02:28:00 PM
'Fine tuned'? Did we see the same picture? I mean, I know they used a lot of non-actors, but that's no reason to accept such jarringly sub-par performances. It just requires more takes.
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